All-Star Full Paid Bid Or At Large?

[feelingfierce]

I'm just curious as to how your gym does it, my gym will not allow any teams to attend the USASF cheerleading worlds without a full paid bid. I went before on a different team with an at large bid & we didn't even make it to finals, of course all the teams with the full paid bids got the top I'd say 10 spots or so...

So obviously the teams that won the full paid bids are going to get the top spots, they usually earned them by winning one of the top spots at a competition, because usually the grand champs and so on get the full paid bids. That's most of the time how it goes, not saying it always does...

 

[WyldWon]

We narrowly missed getting 2 paid bids...we ended up with a partial...it will still end up costing at least and extra $500...but everyone is in!!!

 

[kickdblcj]

Well my gym has 5 locations and all 4 worlds teams with the exception of our all girl international 5 has a paid bid.

 

[lakerfantlc]

Not all full paid bid winners move on...thats for sure...but IMO...if you can't get a full paid bid...you probably won't have great success at Worlds....and some teams are happy to just get to go and have the experience...

 

[GoldChain]

IMO a bid is a bid. Paied is always good, but my tean earned at at large ( extremely close for the paid ) and im fine with it

 

[garretttt]

Not all full paid bid winners move on...thats for sure...but IMO...if you can't get a full paid bid...you probably won't have great success at Worlds....and some teams are happy to just get to go and have the experience...

if you have a paid bid in small senior you probably will move on regardless on how you perform js. i know of a team that dropped 3 stunts and had a pyramid mess up and STILL made finals....and guess what they had a paid bid.

 

[XoxLibertyallstarsxox]

My gym has an at large bid for our open level six team. They're still going. They're trying to raise $ tho

 

[imrichhowboutu]

Well this year in small senior and small limited - teams with an AT LARGE have to compete in prelims. 50% of these teams make it on to SEMI FINALS. Those who made it plus ALL of the paid bid recipients here compete and 50% move on to FINALS. Since there are less paid bids than at large bids, it is possible that the majority of teams with paid bids will make it to finals.

For example
Small Senior - 22 paid bids and 49 at large bids
Prelims - 49 at large bids go in.... 25 come out
Semi - Finals... 25 at large bids and 22 paid bids (total of 47 go in) 24 teams come out
Finals .... 24 teams compete and there is a possibility that all 22 paid bids will have made it through.

 

[SharkDad]

Well this year in small senior and small limited - teams with an AT LARGE have to compete in prelims. 50% of these teams make it on to SEMI FINALS. Those who made it plus ALL of the paid bid recipients here compete and 50% move on to FINALS. Since there are less paid bids than at large bids, it is possible that the majority of teams with paid bids will make it to finals.

For example
Small Senior - 22 paid bids and 49 at large bids
Prelims - 49 at large bids go in.... 25 come out
Semi - Finals... 25 at large bids and 22 paid bids (total of 47 go in) 24 teams come out
Finals .... 24 teams compete and there is a possibility that all 22 paid bids will have made it through.

I agree it's likely that the majority of paids will get to day 2, but with these numbers it's also very possible that some At Larges can out perform and knock out a few paid bids.

 

[Nothanks]

Well this year in small senior and small limited - teams with an AT LARGE have to compete in prelims. 50% of these teams make it on to SEMI FINALS. Those who made it plus ALL of the paid bid recipients here compete and 50% move on to FINALS. Since there are less paid bids than at large bids, it is possible that the majority of teams with paid bids will make it to finals.

For example
Small Senior - 22 paid bids and 49 at large bids
Prelims - 49 at large bids go in.... 25 come out
Semi - Finals... 25 at large bids and 22 paid bids (total of 47 go in) 24 teams come out
Finals .... 24 teams compete and there is a possibility that all 22 paid bids will have made it through.

so is the prelims for these divisions basically the trials for the international teams? are semi-finals on saturday and sunday? i was just thinking about which day who would have to compete twice...and it just seems silly to me to have the same thing for divisions, but call them one thing for half and something else for the other half.

 

[imrichhowboutu]

I agree it's likely that the majority of paids will get to day 2, but with these numbers it's also very possible that some At Larges can out perform and knock out a few paid bids.

Amen. I think it is safe to say that at least 75% (16+) Paid bid teams will make it to the second day.

And Small Limited is similar to these numbers - 23 paid and 48 at large

But a division like large senior is interesting because there are 9 Paid bids and only 5 at large bids... so only 7 teams are making it to finals. Or Semi with an equal 7 paid and 7 at large... and unlimited coed with 3 paid and 3 at large

 

[imrichhowboutu]

Pre-lims and Semi Finals are on saturday and Finals on Sunday

Although i would assume that they will have Small Limited and Small Senior pre-lims as the first 2 divisions alternating. And then their Semi-Finals will be later in the day.

 

[imrichhowboutu]

and it just seems silly to me to have the same thing for divisions, but call them one thing for half and something else for the other half.

International Teams have American Finals. Because it is only american teams that are competing for the right to enter the international competition. If they called it Pre-lims, Semi-finals, and finals, then it would seem like international teams get an automatic bid into semi-finals... which i guess would be ok since it would be similar to having a paid bid in a senior division. And i would actually like if american international teams with paid bids automatically made it to Semi-Finals and they took 50% of the at large american teams.

 

[Nothanks]

International Teams have American Finals. Because it is only american teams that are competing for the right to enter the international competition. If they called it Pre-lims, Semi-finals, and finals, then it would seem like international teams get an automatic bid into semi-finals... which i guess would be ok since it would be similar to having a paid bid in a senior division. And i would actually like if american international teams with paid bids automatically made it to Semi-Finals and they took 50% of the at large american teams.

i guess that makes more sense. i just wasn't sure how they'd have all of those divisions with prelims/trials in on one day and then still have time to do semifinals/prelims later without it being midnight after doing all of the other divisions as well. and competing twice in a day sucks. and i feel like so many more teams are being required to do that.

 

[imrichhowboutu]

i guess that makes more sense. i just wasn't sure how they'd have all of those divisions with prelims/trials in on one day and then still have time to do semifinals/prelims later without it being midnight after doing all of the other divisions as well. and competing twice in a day sucks. and i feel like so many more teams are being required to do that.

It's really not that big of a deal. There are a handful of one day competitions where the athletes have to compete twice. I was on a team in college where we competed in pre-lims and the challenge cup, then finals the next day. I've also gone full out more than once in a day at practice.