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[Just-a-Mom]

I dobut there's bulling going on at CEA. Courtney is all about mental game and being mentally strong. And she is building your mental strenght without you knowing about it. She pushes them SO hard. She's giving them skills that they are not capable of. But they will be doing it soon. That's her coaching style and if you don't like it and she is to hard for you than you are probably call this bullying. But hey....it's looks like her mental game is winning worlds so I guess it work.
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This is a very typical response when someone says they're being bullied by someone popular or well liked. To say that the "victim" (or accuser) is obviously just "not tough enough." Why do you doubt it? Based on what? That they win worlds? That they have good routines? That you like them? None of that means bullying isn't happening. Why do you think all these moms are saying this? (I'm actually asking that - I can't imagine people would dare go after cea and csp based on a lie. Why wouldn't Amber's mom just leave quietly if this were not happening? And other moms before her?)

I don't know why it is so hard for people to believe that there might be things that go on in that gym that are not OK, but I know that will never change.

Just my thoughts:
1) winning worlds doesn't make you a good person or even a good coach. (just like winning super bowls, NCAA championships, or anything else doesn't)
2) When I'm presented with evidence time and time again that someone is not who people see in their public persona, I believe it.
3) no one else has to believe it, I'm OK standing alone.
4) Again, I think I'm in a minority, but winning worlds is not worth my child's well being.

@kristenthegreat it's not different. I don't like it when Eddie does it either. Or when Abby Lee does it. But to each their own. I choose not to put my children in toxic environments. So, no, they don't have any worlds titles. But they're happy. (Side note, my daughter's dance academy does actually have more world's titles than any other one in the US and they never bully or threaten. So it can be done. I think I'll keep her right where she is)

 

[mamabear]

I feel really bad for all the Teal and Cali families and athletes (especially the FBers). Unfortunately, it looks like it is probably going to get worse instead of better for the last couple of days. As hard as it is, don't give to much of your own energy into this. <3 Breathe <3

 

[howdyoulikemenow]

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I love Molly Gibbons. Such a mature and kind girl.

 

[Nikaa]

This lady is classy and so well raised. Great job to her parents.

 

[cmpayne]

My opinion of the whole bullying allegation is that you have chosen to be on a highly competitive team that has goals of winning the highest competition in cheerleading, you know that there are alternates, you know the commitment you'll have to give, and you know you have to do your best. The coaches job is obviously to have the team succeed but they can't do that if someone is holding the team back, making replacements necessary. Tbh, and don't take what I say too seriously considering I'm not a part of either program, I feel like they got butt-hurt and wanted to throw some remarks back at CEA. There's a difference between being mature and moving on rather than what they did. They both had bad things to say and they wanted to make them known and the fact that she's already throwing out the fact that she's going to other gyms is unclassy as well.

 

[mstealtoyou]

Another statement from a member of SE

Well, she handled that much better than I did here. Bless her heart. When I grow up I want to be Molly!!! #allin

 

[kristenthegreat]

@kristenthegreat it's not different. I don't like it when Eddie does it either. Or when Abby Lee does it. But to each their own. I choose not to put my children in toxic environments. So, no, they don't have any worlds titles. But they're happy. (Side note, my daughter's dance academy does actually have more world's titles than any other one in the US and they never bully or threaten. So it can be done. I think I'll keep her right where she is)

I'm not saying it's different- just that some people might think it is. Personally, there are certain degrees of 'toughness' I can handle, and certain degrees I can't. Eddie's style- would probably shut me down. CSP's style, probably not.

PS- You're saying 'These moms'- but none of us have any idea who these other moms are. For most of us, this is an isolated incident with one parent. I was in the SOT thread and heard other evidence first hand, so I'm on board with that it can happen at ANY gym REGARDLESS of Worlds titles. However, I currently know of at least 2 parents, one on each side of the fence, so until I have more on one side than the other, I can't accurately say for real whether or not this was happening. Does this mother have every right to her feelings/her daughter have those same rights? Absolutely. She might very well have felt that way. That being said- unless I was there, I can only go on the people I know. You clearly know others (and have no need to disclose them/their identities/their experiences, I'm not asking for other people's business! ), but the rest of us are probably clueless.

 

[azune]

Don't do it again...................

 

[crazyredhead]

Hmm Im not sure if Molly even knew what she was trying to say!


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[Just-a-Mom]

My opinion of the whole bullying allegation is that you have chosen to be on a highly competitive team that has goals of winning the highest competition in cheerleading, you know that there are alternates, you know the commitment you'll have to give, and you know you have to do your best. The coaches job is obviously to have the team succeed but they can't do that if someone is holding the team back, making replacements necessary.

But the bullying allegations I've heard aren't from world's teams (other than this amber thing). I've heard it from moms at every age group and level.

That being said, I'll clarify that I don't think it's unique to cea. I think this is very common in youth sports. I just don't understand parents that allow it. There's a difference between making a team successful through yelling, making necessary replacements, etc and outright belittling a child. My kids have had tough coaches - and I never thought they were bullied. They've been screamed at. I've seen kids on their teams get replaced. All of that is normal in competitive sports. Bullying is different. If you haven't lived it, you wouldn't get it. And if you've not been the mom of someone it's happened to, you really don't get it. When you see it, and you see a child's reaction to it, the difference is instantly clear.

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[yooolizzi]

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[cheerislife]

Funniest reply I've seen all week! Thank you! Lol


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[kristenthegreat]

Hmm Im not sure if Molly even knew what she was trying to say!

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My abridged version- We love each other, and sometimes this is hard. It's a worlds team, and there are times when we support each other, even if they've messed up/dropped a stunt/etc. When you watch someone not do their job when you know it's in them, it's hard and you do everything you can to try to motivate them. Sometimes those things don't work, but you love someone and it's frustrating so you keep trying different things. She's lost friends by doing this in the way she did, because we are a family and we support each other. Please stop bringing US into whatever issues you have with our coach, s'il vous plait.

I don't know if Molly knows French.

 

[Nikaa]

I honestly think she was getting too big for smoed and would never base. There, I said it.

Next time you will even think about girls body at least try to shut your mouth and stay quiet because this is rude and noone should never say something like this.

 

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