All-Star Csp Tweet: No More Travelling For Cea Teams.

[Pebbles49]

I always wondered about gyms in areas like Colorado, Iowa, Idaho, and many other states, etc..., these Allstar programs in those states have no choice but to travel to all the big competitions and cannot get around the Stay to Play policy. In my opinion, these are the gyms that we should be fighting and helping to get rid of the unfair practices that governs the finances and accessibility of cheerleading for every talented athlete in this sport. .. It is easy for big programs like CEA, WC, TopGun, etc... to say we are not traveling anymore, but these gyms with little major competitions around them they have no choice, but put up with these policies... Let's think about what is fair for everyone, not just a select group... Like I said before, why not move these competitions around, particularly, NCA, Worlds, Summit and Cheersport, so every gym in different areas can have a chance to drive to a major competition...just saying!

 

[Ashley]

But what if a team is scheduled to attend 4 bid competitions, if they get a bid on the first attempt should they cancel the remaining ones?

On the flip side if scheduled for 4 bid events and you receive a bid at the last event I'm guessing you already surpassed the 650 mark.


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This is what my open team does. We plan for 2-3 competitions per year (this year is the first year we traveled out of New England - we went to Atlantic City) and once we get a bid we don't go to the rest of the competitions. So we're not going to Spirit Fest next weekend. And of course this year they decided to guarantee a paid bid to an open team (they've never even been eligible in the past), which we were not aware of or we probably wouldn't have cancelled that comp.

But we're an open team so it's all about saving costs and we're not flying to comps to try and get bids. But I think there's definitely a disadvantage to not getting out on a mat in front of a crowd when you cancel the rest. And it's definitely important to consider that there's more to the season than just worlds.

But you can always tell at a comp who are flying in just to try and get a bid versus those who are driving 8-10 hours or flying to compete against the only competition they can get regionally.

 

[NoOneSpecial]

I am surprised they wouldn't make more charges to set the teams up to be successful or just avoid those comps. I know in the northeast it limits you on competitions.


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Correct. We avoid those competitions therefore limiting comps in the Northeast. To each gyms philosophies.

Personally for my pocket book, I would take the risk of changing the routine to match scoresheets.

With the change in landscape of invite only comps - I wouldn't mind my comp schedule changed to RI AC NCA Majors Champions League and Worlds. Those venues give me my biggest bang for my buck. Although the problem with this schedule is back to back weekends. That is also something to consider when gyms schedule.

I think I read somewhere that SE is away 3 weekends in a row. That puts a huge cash crunch for the month of March and wear n tear on an athlete mentally and physically. Then u have missed school/work back to back.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

I have also heard that this time of year is extra rough on Worlds team kids who are graduating but have back-to-back travel through Worlds.

College cheer clinics/tryouts? Try planning those around your all star schedule. It happens but it is likely crazy.

Don't forget keeping up your grades, AP exams, etc.

Prom? Forget it.

Senior trip? Worlds may as well be it because you can't go.

 

[Cheer Dad]

I have also heard that this time of year is extra rough on Worlds team kids who are graduating but have back-to-back travel through Worlds.

College cheer clinics/tryouts? Try planning those around your all star schedule. It happens but it is likely crazy.

Don't forget keeping up your grades, AP exams, etc.

Prom? Forget it.

Senior trip? Worlds may as well be it because you can't go.

Cps school doesn't do senior trips and fortunately college tryouts are the after worlds.


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[NoOneSpecial]

It is tough on the kids the timing of when these comps are - they have to make tough choices - missing important things outside of the cheer world. Another example - spring break - can't go anywhere because I have cheer practice. Everyone needs a break from the rat race , even kids from school and everyday commitments.

 

[NoOneSpecial]

Cps school doesn't do senior trips and fortunately college tryouts are the after worlds.


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Depends on which college you are attending for cheer tryouts. Some of your more competitive college cheer is around Worlds month. I remember a team member going to Alabama tryouts when we where at One Up. Or a couple going to Kentucky or Lousvulle Worlds week.

 

[AScheer]

Wow - $100 per night per room more, for the same exact hotel!? - yeah, that is outrage-worthy - wow. I see why people are upset. Now is she specifically meaning this to be for comps that use STP, or is it just any travel that involves a plane? Unless you're talking 2 hours a way, I think any 2 day comp is gonna involve a hotel. Don't most bid-giving comps involve 2 days?

Stay to play has nothing to do with the distance or how you arrive to the city. Some competitions use it, some don't. Worlds isn't considered stay to play. While a lot of teams do stay on the resort with the package, they offer commuter passes that do not require you to pay them for a hotel.

I know for the northeast there is a couple competitions that we could of gone to to see our competitors but didn't and I think it was more because of how those particular EP scored. Our routines weren't set up to be successful on those score sheets. (Ehum need for universal scoresheet industry wide).

This! Teams that win NCA usually (not always, so no need for anyone to provide a huge list of teams that have) don't win Worlds. It's been shown that the score sheets don't align that well with each other. What NCA looks for and values, doesn't always align with what worlds looks for and values. If CSP or any gym's main goal is to win worlds, then spending the money and time to go to NCA doesn't align with your goal to win Worlds, nor does NCA judge feedback help you. If you're able to see the same competition at Cheersport, Majors, some of the Battles, etc, then why spend the money to fly to Dallas?

 

[quitthedrama]

No I'm playing on her words? I get the feeling that you can't say your the best unless you go to worlds.

So only teams with worlds team can say they are the best.

And I'm questioning do gyms with worlds teams who have crappy lower levels get to say they are the best in the country? I don't think so.


And no pretty sure we compete against sprit of Texas regularly and they don't suck.

They also go to big competitions like us.


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[Cheer Dad]

Depends on which college you are attending for cheer tryouts. Some of your more competitive college cheer is around Worlds month. I remember a team member going to Alabama tryouts when we where at One Up. Or a couple going to Kentucky or Lousvulle Worlds week.

Sorry, meant my cps college tryouts are the week after worlds this year. Wasn't trying to be general about all college tryouts.


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[UCFKnights07]

Is there a rule out there that states big name gyms must travel or everyone is going to judge them.... I'm sure they are plenty of smaller gyms that don't go out of state maybe more then once or twice for competitions. The timing of the announcement is odd considering all that occurred and was said after NCA, but if it saves people money and helps the kids with school I can't really judge them for taking a break.

 

[mamabear]

Depends on which college you are attending for cheer tryouts. Some of your more competitive college cheer is around Worlds month. I remember a team member going to Alabama tryouts when we where at One Up. Or a couple going to Kentucky or Lousvulle Worlds week.

This is probably not a coincidence. The colleges know that a lot of out of town athletes/potential team members will be in the area and can monopolize on that.

 

[MissCongeniality]

My CP likely will have to pass on college cheer her freshman year. Between comps, practices, AP tests...and still waiting to see which college she ultimately goes to...it just isn't falling into place

 

[GreatWhite92]

This is probably not a coincidence. The colleges know that a lot of out of town athletes/potential team members will be in the area and can monopolize on that.

University of Tennessee's try out are ALWAYS on worlds week so basically you have to choose tryouts or worlds. I have no idea why. I think she lets you send in a video but it's very very unlikely you'll make it that way.


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[quitthedrama]

University of Tennessee's try out are ALWAYS on worlds week so basically you have to choose tryouts or worlds. I have no idea why. I think she lets you send in a video but it's very very unlikely you'll make it that way.


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University of South Carolina is the week before Worlds and this is such an issue for us. Ole Miss and Alabama are in May which is far more convenient for all star cheerleaders.

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