All-Star Reporting A Gym/coach

if it were me...I would keep to myself and let them get caught in the act on their own. Just sayin'.

alexamarysouza said:

if it were me...I would keep to myself and let them get caught in the act on their own. Just sayin'.

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My niece goes to their gym so the parents are all concerned.

Cheerlicious said:

If a cheer program is not registered with USASF is there any place or any means of reporting the fact that a coach has an extensive criminal background & would not have passed the USASF background check. Any info provided would be appreciated & this is NOT the gym where my CP cheers!!!!

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Legitimately...not really for any ruling body that will impact much. You can contact USASF who has ties to all the EPs and they MAY decide to communicate the information depending on its nature. There is a difference between protecting children and business practices, so you can threaten they need to do someone in the latter but probably have no pull on the former.

Beyond that you can do the same to individual EPs yourself or big Varsity and then threaten to make the complaint public so it may hurt their brand.

Then again all this borders on hearsay and slander, therefore opens you or the EP to a lawsuit so unless you are willing to report to police perhaps it will be futile.

Good Luck and I hope you can feel free to do the right thing!

I'm questioning of the EP's would even care.



**Hi, I'm Cheer Dad and I'm a cheeraholic and have been for longer than I remember**

If they aren't planning on going to any USASF sanctioned events, their staff does not have get a green light on their background check. In all actuality, the only thing the USASF background check does is allow the coach into warmups. It doesn't stop someone who can't pass a background check from actually coaching. If the parents of the organization feel strongly enough that having this person on staff is a safety issue for their children, they only thing I can recommend is pulling their child. BUT, before I pulled my kid, I'd make damn sure I was dealing in fact and not rumor.

Thank you for all of the input. As I thought because they are not usasf members the recourse is very limited.

I would also like to say all of this is based on FACT. I have copies of the mugshot, prison photo, conviction record, charges, prison he was at including dates, length of time release. This is all public information and available online. Many parents did not find it as he is using his middle name to coach and charges and conviction are in his full legal name.

I would never attempt to report anyone based on rumor or hearsay. These are cold hard facts and there is legal evidence to back it up. Unfortunately there isn't much that can be done about it.

For sure my niece will be leaving the program & what goes beyond that is up to her parents.

@Cheerlicious are the crimes committed by this person so bad you fear your niece and other kids are in danger?

Would you feel the same way for someone who served jail time for killing his child's rapist?

What about someone convicted of negligent vehicular manslaughter where the passenger died as a result of dangerous driving?


**Hi, I'm Cheer Dad and I'm a cheeraholic and have been for longer than I remember**

Cheer Dad said:

@Cheerlicious are the crimes committed by this person so bad you fear your niece and other kids are in danger?

Would you feel the same way for someone who served jail time for killing his child's rapist?

What about someone convicted of negligent vehicular manslaughter where the passenger died as a result of dangerous driving?


**Hi, I'm Cheer Dad and I'm a cheeraholic and have been for longer than I remember**

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Multiple felony counts of robbery, etc. These are kids under age 10...my niece is 4. It's a character issue for me, the prison release is within the past year.

If the person wouldn't be able to pass a background check from usasf or a background check for employment in a public school (at least in our state) than I don't feel that person should be coaching in any program simply because they choose not to do background checks. There are plenty of cheer programs available who require coaches to pass background checks and I would go to those...which I do.

If the gym is a private gym not registered with USASF then it is on the consumer to decide whether they want to do business with them. Any parent who is aware of the situation has decided that the crimes committed do not affect the coaching ability and the coach is not a danger to their child. No one is forced to keep their child at this gym.

I had a similar experience last year, but it didn't involve criminal charges. Instead, the gym owner introduced the new competitive teams director as having dual bachelor's degrees in kinesiology and sports psychology, 11 years as a gym owner, 18 years of management experience, and 25 years as a coach. After watching this guy touch a young female cheer coach inappropriately, I Googled him. It took me 3 minutes to realize his qualifications had to be bogus. (I've been an employment investigator for a couple of decades.) Long story short, no degrees, never owned a gym, and was never in management. I took it to the gym owner. She decided to retain him because he didn't have a criminal record. I felt like it was a character issue and that lying on one's resume set a bad example for kids, so we left.

Is the owner of the gym aware of these charges? I'd start there. If you need to conceal your identity, you can always do a phone call from a private number. Present your concerns and encourage the owner to follow up. It's possible that there is more to the story than you know.

Are parents aware of these charges? If so, it's up to them to keep their children in the situation.

Cheerlicious said:

Multiple felony counts of robbery, etc. These are kids under age 10...my niece is 4. It's a character issue for me, the prison release is within the past year.

If the person wouldn't be able to pass a background check from usasf or a background check for employment in a public school (at least in our state) than I don't feel that person should be coaching in any program simply because they choose not to do background checks. There are plenty of cheer programs available who require coaches to pass background checks and I would go to those...which I do.

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Depending on the type of robberies, I would let the owner know solely out of the concern for personal and account information that could be attained if they have access to the office or computers.

Concerning background checks, our church does background checks if you want to work with kids and they specifically filter for violent, sexual, personal and drug crimes. My guess is the USASF is similar. If the person had a history of multiple theft at retail stores and paid their time, it wouldn't necessarily keep them from working with kids. It is very possible they are aware of his background and feel it poses no threat to their business or children.

catlady said:

Depending on the type of robberies, I would let the owner know solely out of the concern for personal and account information that could be attained if they have access to the office or computers.

Concerning background checks, our church does background checks if you want to work with kids and they specifically filter for violent, sexual, personal and drug crimes. My guess is the USASF is similar. If the person had a history of multiple theft at retail stores and paid their time, it wouldn't necessarily keep them from working with kids. It is very possible they are aware of his background and feel it poses no threat to their business or children.

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I don't know either way for a fact, but I would not assume the USASF is similar unless you've seen what their criteria is. Their standard for other things in the past have proven to be less than expected.

SharkDad said:

I don't know either way for a fact, but I would not assume the USASF is similar unless you've seen what their criteria is. Their standard for other things in the past have proven to be less than expected.

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If you have a felony conviction you cannot pass (green light) a usasf background check. All of their criteria are available online. I'm assuming this is why the program is not registered with usasf because he runs their program and would never pass.