Young Tumbler Working On A Full

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Wait.

Your kid has a full at six and has been tumbling for a year?

What is the rush, exactly?

When someone tells me that their kid has that many skills at that age, I generally assume that skills are being rushed and technique is being compromised in some way.
 
She shouldn't be working on that full until her punch front, standing tuck, and layout are 100%. As in the layout is a perfect, high, hollow body layout with NO piking whatsoever, tucks are landed cleanly 100% of the time, and she has a punch front she can step out of and tumble through to that near perfect layout. As a parent I wouldn't be allowing a 6 year old who has been tumbling less than 2 years to work a full regardless. They are not physically or emotionally ready. I would worry about the very high risk of injury.
 
Thank you both for your replies...to answer your question there is no rush
 
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Thank you for your response--can I ask why the punch front and standing tuck before the full--the layout I get... (This is not me arguing a point, just asking as someone with no cheer background.) Thanks again.
 
Hi All,

I could use some advice. I have a daughter that just turned 6, and has been tumbling for not quite a year and a half. She has a very solid ROBHS tuck and ROBHS layout...and a standing tuck that is still inconsistent--some days she can hit 10 for 10 and other days she struggles on the floor and has to move to the tumble trak.. CP is now starting to work on a full, also a front punch. The struggle is working on these skills with the patience of a girl newly turned 6.

Can others share their experience with:

-How long to get a full after you have a solid layout? How about from landing a punch front on the TT to moving to the floor?

-How have other parents managed the expectations and frustration of very young athletes as they work on more difficult skills that may take longer?

Posting in parents section as well...
Once she is bored and has a perfect layout then I recommend to start twisting a half and once mastered then try to full. Progressing too quickly is a very easy way to gain a mental block so there should be no rush. For the standing tuck tell her to push through her toes and leg muscles, make sure she is getting a full swing, and I recommend grabbing your legs under to pull when first learning. A punch front is less of a deal in my opinion and is a skill that many bust at first and then progress. But a full should absolutely not just be went for without progression. A full is a skill that just had to click and with hard work and dedication she will have it in no time.
 
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Thank you for your response--can I ask why the punch front and standing tuck before the full--the layout I get... (This is not me arguing a point, just asking as someone with no cheer background.) Thanks again.
It goes to strength in the core and muscles that support the leg joints and rotational technique, the ability to "save" a twist that goes awry rather than tear an ACL. Plus a little bit more experience and technique under their belt. The full is a much riskier skill in terms of catastrophic injury, so they want them to be as ready as possible. If they are piking the layout landing on the floor AT ALL or cannot consistently rotate froward and backward without landing properly and not stressing the knees, the risk of injury throwing a full increases dramatically.
 
She needs to careful when she does her BHS that she doesn't bend her arms so much, she should be pushing through her shoulders not the arms. My cp progresses at a regular rate even after being a TOPS gymnast so I have no suggestions for the fact she's getting bored.
As a new poster I would be careful handing out negative ratings, people take them very seriously around here.
 
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umm...please tell me why you think I handed out a negative rating??? If I did it is a mistake...how do I fix it???
 
Near the top of this post you rated @oncecoolcoachnowmom's post a "gossip"...around here that is considered a negative rating. People accidently hit the wrong one all the time but if someone receives to many negatives they get banned from the board for 24 hours, so people take them pretty seriously.
 
I would be careful handing out negative ratings, people take them very seriously around here.

umm...please tell me why you think I handed out a negative rating??? If I did it is a mistake...how do I fix it???[/QUOTE]

Never mind--I found it and fixed it! So sorry oncecoolcoachnowmom!! Thanks cheermommaRN for pointing that out!
 
She needs to careful when she does her BHS that she doesn't bend her arms so much, she should be pushing through her shoulders not the arms. My cp progresses at a regular rate even after being a TOPS gymnast so I have no suggestions for the fact she's getting bored.
As a new poster I would be careful handing out negative ratings, people take them very seriously around here.
Yes to the pink font.
 
Welcome to the board @HappyGirls
My CP started tumbling at 3, janky BHS at 4, solid stand and multiple well performed BHS at 5, tucks standing&running at 6, whip aka a janky layout at 7, solid layout&punch front at 8 and she is currently 9 with a full. Currently working specialty to full and its whipping her. So similar age range with skills.
To answer your questions.
1)My CP worked her layout for a solid year. They hammered her with it so much her full actually came quick. A beautiful layout generally makes that full easier to acquire.
2) The punch front, to me, is one of the hardest skills to not only perform but perfect. It needs to be perfect on the trampoline and rod floor before it goes to the floor. So it could take a while.
3) I don't manage her skill acquisition. I've always taken tumbling for granted when it comes to my CP because that's what she does and she is damn good at it. I actually like to see her struggle on certain skills because it teaches to work harder and not take it for granted. Explain to her there is no rush, you're six, I'm proud of you and have fun.

We really need to see a more recent video.
I see a ton of mechanical issues with every part of that tumbling pass. There is no way she went from that to very solid skills in 6 months.
She isn't loading properly in the RO. Look at her leg placement at the end of it. Every solid pass is built from a RO that needs to be fixed.
Her arms are bent, her legs are bent and her legs are apart in the BHS.
She is not setting in her tuck at all. It should be up and over not back and over.

"Perfection before progression" on lower level skills equals beautiful higher level skills with less of a chance of injury.
 
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