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I have a question about this part. Is that a legit number? 85% of the program has to attend in order to qualify for a World's bid? I ask because I know of some local gyms that are having 1st year World's teams. The gyms and the kids on them are very excited about these teams. But I'm not sure that the parents of the lower level cheerleaders will be exited about attending additional 2 day events.

Most EPs have policies where gyms have to bring x amount of teams/program to the comp in order to qualify for the bids (unless they travel outside of a specific distance). I'm unsure of the current policies but it used to be a high percentage of the program IIRC. Might've changed in the past couple of years, I haven't kept up on what the declarations are now.
 
My assumption is that the contracted hotels have language in their contracts that forbid them from offering lower rates for those weekends. After all of the complaining about people being able to find much lower rates by themselves, I would think the powers that be will make sure that isn't possible any more. I would assume they will have people checking online pricing to make sure the hotels aren't violating their contracts and advertising lower rates. Those hotel contracts will interfere with normal supply-and-demand pricing.

There are some benefits to stay-to-play in theory, but getting lower prices for rooms for the end customer isn't likely one of them. The hotels, events, and even the cities are tasked with trying to get as much money out of the families as they can and making rooms cheaper generally isn't in line with that.

You are correct. When there is a group rate, the contract will normally read the hotel cannot offer a lower rate. Once we were supposed to be staying at a hotel with a group rate. This was around New Years. A discount site had a deal going and the pricing was supposed to be before and after our dates. Well there was a glitch and that rate showed for our stay. So several of us took that rate. They honored it but corrected the site.
 
I have a question about this part. Is that a legit number? 85% of the program has to attend in order to qualify for a World's bid? I ask because I know of some local gyms that are having 1st year World's teams. The gyms and the kids on them are very excited about these teams. But I'm not sure that the parents of the lower level cheerleaders will be exited about attending additional 2 day events.
Usually 50% of gym must attend,but some gyms will say they r from their “sister” gym to bypass that rule.
 
You are correct. When there is a group rate, the contract will normally read the hotel cannot offer a lower rate. Once we were supposed to be staying at a hotel with a group rate. This was around New Years. A discount site had a deal going and the pricing was supposed to be before and after our dates. Well there was a glitch and that rate showed for our stay. So several of us took that rate. They honored it but corrected the site.

On many of the EP's websites it would specifically say you would not find a lower "group rate." Many of these hotels had it so they could still offer lower individual rates on discount sites.
It will be interesting to see how this works out. My soccer child neighbor said their last non-STP event just went to STP and our travel baseball neighbor said they just went to a non-STP event, but the closest hotel was 25 miles away, a Holiday Inn Express and $209 a night. My kids have aged out and retired, but my non-All Star neighbors are just as interested in knowing how this version works out for you all.
 
My assumption is that the contracted hotels have language in their contracts that forbid them from offering lower rates for those weekends. After all of the complaining about people being able to find much lower rates by themselves, I would think the powers that be will make sure that isn't possible any more. I would assume they will have people checking online pricing to make sure the hotels aren't violating their contracts and advertising lower rates. Those hotel contracts will interfere with normal supply-and-demand pricing.

There are some benefits to stay-to-play in theory, but getting lower prices for rooms for the end customer isn't likely one of them. The hotels, events, and even the cities are tasked with trying to get as much money out of the families as they can and making rooms cheaper generally isn't in line with that.

So this is really interesting, because in many cases the major hotel companies have contracts with major employers to provide them the best rates and are contractually required to extend that rate for employee leisure. On top of that sites like Priceline buy blocks of rooms at a contracted rate based on the expected average rate for that level hotel on that date. These would both seem to be in conflict with the protecting the STP vendors.
 
So this is really interesting, because in many cases the major hotel companies have contracts with major employers to provide them the best rates and are contractually required to extend that rate for employee leisure. On top of that sites like Priceline buy blocks of rooms at a contracted rate based on the expected average rate for that level hotel on that date. These would both seem to be in conflict with the protecting the STP vendors.

The loophole is hotels could change their contracts ever so slightly and they would never have to meet a single lower rate because it wouldn't be "comparable."

*Lowest Room Rate Guarantee will be honored when comparable rooms are found for a lower rate. If you find a room of the same type (double, king, etc.), on the same dates, with the same included amenities (breakfast, parking, etc.) and with the same team-friendly payment and cancellation terms, please report it to the Housing Partner.
 
I always just book my own rooms anyway. I never book trough their company. I have a kid with medical needs who has certain requirements and a lot of the time, the hotels we have the option of can’t provide that. I learned that my very first competition when she was a mini 1. Never again. Now I just stay at the best place for us and our needs and no one has ever called me out for it.
 
I always just book my own rooms anyway. I never book trough their company. I have a kid with medical needs who has certain requirements and a lot of the time, the hotels we have the option of can’t provide that. I learned that my very first competition when she was a mini 1. Never again. Now I just stay at the best place for us and our needs and no one has ever called me out for it.
Do you put your kids name on someone else’s rooming list? We need to submit our reservations to our program and I know firsthand that at least NCA Dallas checks those lists. That said, I know many who applied for exemptions without having a problem. That seems a fairly straightforward approach to take.
 
Do you put your kids name on someone else’s rooming list? We need to submit our reservations to our program and I know firsthand that at least NCA Dallas checks those lists. That said, I know many who applied for exemptions without having a problem. That seems a fairly straightforward approach to take.
No. No one has ever asked. I know plenty of people who stay with relatives or book their own rooms with points and we don’t have to let anyone know anything.
 
I always just book my own rooms anyway. I never book trough their company. I have a kid with medical needs who has certain requirements and a lot of the time, the hotels we have the option of can’t provide that. I learned that my very first competition when she was a mini 1. Never again. Now I just stay at the best place for us and our needs and no one has ever called me out for it.

Given the medical requirements angle, I would just continuing to do what you are doing. However, bringing attention to yourself for skirting the system probably isn't the best plan.
 
I always just book my own rooms anyway. I never book trough their company. I have a kid with medical needs who has certain requirements and a lot of the time, the hotels we have the option of can’t provide that. I learned that my very first competition when she was a mini 1. Never again. Now I just stay at the best place for us and our needs and no one has ever called me out for it.
 
No. No one has ever asked. I know plenty of people who stay with relatives or book their own rooms with points and we don’t have to let anyone know anything.
Usually you have to get an exemption to do this. They require our gym to send a list of athletes and their reservation # or exemption #. Otherwise, everyone would do what you are doing & no one would use STP & it would be pointless. I think you are lucky you haven’t been caught.
Oh, and I think you could legitimately get an exemption for medical reasons if there isn’t a hotel on the list that meets your child’s needs.
 
Usually you have to get an exemption to do this. They require our gym to send a list of athletes and their reservation # or exemption #. Otherwise, everyone would do what you are doing & no one would use STP & it would be pointless. I think you are lucky you haven’t been caught.
We have had families going out of the blocks for years with no issues, but just today, we received notice to book all 3 of our away comps with a hard message that STP was required. It stated that everything was being checked and if things didn’t line up, the gym would not be bid eligible. We’ve never had this kind of messaging before- sounds like things are not changing for the better, around here, anyway.
 
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