Increasing Competition – Part 1 – Introduction

[CGAcheer]

If we had teams that competed directly against one another, we would simply not go to that competition at all. I would imagine that most larger programs feel the same way. This means lost revenue for the event producers.



I would love for their to fewer, but larger, competitions. It would save money for the event producers (economies of scale) which could potentially lower prices for athletes. It would typically increase the teams that are in each division.

I don't see a practical way to make this happen, however.

The only practical and politically feasible solution would be to raise the threshold for division splits. If you don't include the caveat that programs' teams aren't forced to compete against each other, then you likely lose the support of the large programs AND the event producers, which would make getting the change passed much more difficult.

I agree on not forcing teams from the same gym to compete against each other, definitely if they are from the same physical gym. Now if you have 7 locations and 50 teams, I'm not sure if I think the same exception should apply. But, it's not just a huge gym issue- We have a large jr 1 and a small jr 1 half year team and we only have 5 total teams.

So- only split if it would put at least 3 teams in each division or if there would be two or more teams from the same gym location competing against each other

That would bring about an immediate increase in teams per division

 

[mecheermom]

And if EPs modify their score sheets, I honestly see no reason why a large senior 5 and a small senior 5 can't compete against each other - they're executing the same skills after all.
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The only draw back to this is that a large team "looks" more impressive on the floor than a small team, with more area of the floor being active. This effects the subjective part of the score, which as a human being is hard to ignore.

 

[CGAcheer]

large teams also have a greater number of opportunities for deductions

 

[Deleted member 15]

large teams also have a greater number of opportunities for deductions

This theory is going to be tested soon.

 

[Spazz]

large teams also have a greater number of opportunities for deductions

Hmm while that's true, think about the converse - a larger group of people is more likely to have greater talent (ie: more fulls, stronger stunts) than a smaller team.

 

[NJ Coach]

Hmm while that's true, think about the converse - a larger group of people is more likely to have greater talent (ie: more fulls, stronger stunts) than a smaller team.

I'd disagree. It's easier to hide someone without all the skills on a large team. On a small team everyone needs to contribute or you won't score well.

 

[CGAcheer]

This theory is going to be tested soon.

Elaborations?

 

[CGAcheer]

Hmm while that's true, think about the converse - a larger group of people is more likely to have greater talent (ie: more fulls, stronger stunts) than a smaller team.

It's easier to put together a small team with squad skills, the only major advantage a large team has is in pyramids, large teams have so many more pyramid options

 

[Deleted member 15]

Elaborations?

I'm going to get data from 4 major (150+ team) events to see if there is a difference in the number of deductions between large teams and small teams. I'm also hoping to get one of the upcoming major events to let me know the average number of deductions broken down by the number of kids on the floor.

 

[CGAcheer]

I'm going to get data from 4 major (150+ team) events to see if there is a difference in the number of deductions between large teams and small teams. I'm also hoping to get one of the upcoming major events to let me know the average number of deductions broken down by the number of kids on the floor.

I guess we can wait for the stats, but it would be reasonable to think if a large with 8 stunt groups and a small with 4 stunt groups each drop 25% of their stunts the large would get 2 deductions and the small only 1 deduction.

But it could work out like one of those things like a coin flip- even if it was just heads 10 times in a row, it is still a fifty fifty shot on the 11th

But I think that more skills gives you more opportunities for deductions, maybe not necessarily greater occurrences of deductions but definitely more chances to get deducted. There will probably be other variables at play such what type of gyms that most large teams come from versus small teams.

 

[Deleted member 15]

I guess we can wait for the stats, but it would be reasonable to think if a large with 8 stunt groups and a small with 4 stunt groups each drop 25% of their stunts the large would get 2 deductions and the small only 1 deduction.

But it could work out like one of those things like a coin flip- even if it was just heads 10 times in a row, it is still a fifty fifty shot on the 11th

But I think that more skills gives you more opportunities for deductions, maybe not necessarily greater occurrences of deductions but definitely more chances to get deducted. There will probably be other variables at play such what type of gyms that most large teams come from versus small teams.

It sounded reasonable enough for me to contact an EP and see if it can be verified with real data. I'm interested to see the results.