All-Star 2013-2014 Music

[chyeeaaa69]

Whist most of these mixes are great and stuff, I'm not feeling the whole "remix" announcement.

Doesn't this have to be done for The Champions League though? As far as I can remember (this relates to the lawsuit JR is a part of) these teams need to compete with mixes that have absolutely zero copyrighted content in order for them to show it in theatres.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

I'm dying!!! No Name Allstars 2013-2024

I tried to tell myself that this was not really funny.

Then I got to "That's the owner's kid!" and realized that I was wrong.

 

[AndrewSky]

Doesn't this have to be done for The Champions League though? As far as I can remember (this relates to the lawsuit JR is a part of) these teams need to compete with mixes that have absolutely zero copyrighted content in order for them to show it in theatres.

I should rephrase by saying it's been popping up a lot (at least at comps I've been going to) even before this. Just don't necessarily like it - but understand reasons.

 

[EricaElite]

I really like Beatle's Champions League mix. It's given me hopes that we'll actually hear some different music other than the songs we hear over and over at competitions.

 

[Abcdefg]

a lot of teams have to change their mixes for champions league due to some type of copyright since they're competing and its being shown on the big screen. im really confused on what is considered copyright in this situation though can someone explain?

 

[chyeeaaa69]

a lot of teams have to change their mixes for champions league due to some type of copyright since they're competing and its being shown on the big screen. im really confused on what is considered copyright in this situation though can someone explain?

Anything that is licensed by somebody else that isn't paid for, essentially. So, let's say JR wanted to use a Britney Spears song in a mix, that song is technically owned by (in all likelihood) her record label. Since we pay for mixes, JR is then technically selling that Britney Spears song, that is not his to sell, unless he pays the appropriate fees to be able to use it for these purposes. That's kinda my simple way of trying to explain it. Most music that exists is in the same situation as I explained. There are exceptions, but the likelihood that you'd be able to find a decent song that you'd be able to freely sell as a mixer is pretty low.

 

[AScheer]

Legal question while we're on the subject. We've been using cheer sounds. They claim to be copyright free and only use original music. They recreate every song and have samples of it on the site comparing the original to their recreation. There is a song or two in our mixes that I can tell isn't the original artist if I listen hard enough but everything else sounds completely real. Is this copyright free since they recreated all of it? Wondered because at the end of the day it's still someone else's lyrics, beats etc. If this is legal why don't the champions league teams have cheer sounds recreate their mix?


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[chyeeaaa69]

Legal question while we're on the subject. We've been using cheer sounds. They claim to be copyright free and only use original music. They recreate every song and have samples of it on the site comparing the original to their recreation. There is a song or two in our mixes that I can tell isn't the original artist if I listen hard enough but everything else sounds completely real. Is this copyright free since they recreated all of it? Wondered because at the end of the day it's still someone else's lyrics, beats etc. If this is legal why don't the champions league teams have cheer sounds recreate their mix?


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That's interesting to me, because I know that Youtube singers used to run into trouble covering songs (when it first became a "popular" thing to do) because of copyright. I'm guessing everyone in the industry stopped caring about it when Youtube covers became a big thing, though.

 

[sportygal2012]

Cheer Athletics Panthers- Champions League music
Cheer Athletics Panthers - Champions League 2014 by Cheer Athletics Panthers on SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds

 

[CheerSounds.com]

Legal question while we're on the subject. We've been using cheer sounds. They claim to be copyright free and only use original music. They recreate every song and have samples of it on the site comparing the original to their recreation. There is a song or two in our mixes that I can tell isn't the original artist if I listen hard enough but everything else sounds completely real. Is this copyright free since they recreated all of it? Wondered because at the end of the day it's still someone else's lyrics, beats etc. If this is legal why don't the champions league teams have cheer sounds recreate their mix?


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Hi All! This is certainly a great question. I hope my explanation helps with some of the more confusing details of music licensing.

There are times that samples can legally be used without written consent. The guidelines are strict, and not following them can lead the offender to legal trouble. Using sample-replay (covers) can help with some situations, but is not a ticket to complete freedom.

Any products that CheerSounds offers publicly (website, downloads, streaming, distribution) are made of recordings that we own. These products include the sample-replay-covers of pop songs, voice overs, sound effects, beats, risers, etc, all of which were recorded or created by our team. Our premade mixes, "build your own" mixes and rec packs are made exclusively of recordings that we own as well. In the scenarios where we are using someone else's lyrics (i.e. a sample-replay), mechanical licenses must be pre-purchased by CheerSounds for each cover, for each sale. License are re-ordered when our prepaid credits have been expended. Some of our sample-replays are almost identical to the originals, and others are more apparently a cover.

Any products that CheerSounds creates but does *not* publicly offer, stream, make available for download, or distribute is preparation for public performance. In this scenario, original music samples may be used. This includes our custom music products. Restrictions apply to the usage of music which contain unlicensed samples. It can ONLY be used in a venue that has active ASCAP licenses, and the mixes can only contain original or ASCAP-member content. These venues include cheerleading gyms and performance venues, providing they are paying their obligatory dues.

Cheer Music fans may have noticed that CheerSounds has no custom music samples on the internet, unless it is completely original or we control 100% of the recordings and the distribution. This is because unlicensed samples are not to be distributed (streaming is a type of distribution, as well as a type of public performance).

The Champion's League is using video, as well as distribution of audio. Combining video and music requires a Synchronization License for the lyrics + melodies, whether the original recording or a cover/sample-replay. Although sample replay allows CL to skip the expensive licensing of the recording from the record company, the sync license requires approval, therefore, is a complicated process. From our perspective, this is why the Champion's League can not use sample-replay/covers.

I hope this explanation helps. If you have any questions, it is easiest to contact us via email at [email protected].

Carmine Silano
CheerSounds.com

 

[xtremeteal4life]

Anything that is licensed by somebody else that isn't paid for, essentially. So, let's say JR wanted to use a Britney Spears song in a mix, that song is technically owned by (in all likelihood) her record label. Since we pay for mixes, JR is then technically selling that Britney Spears song, that is not his to sell, unless he pays the appropriate fees to be able to use it for these purposes. That's kinda my simple way of trying to explain it. Most music that exists is in the same situation as I explained. There are exceptions, but the likelihood that you'd be able to find a decent song that you'd be able to freely sell as a mixer is pretty low.

You are exactly correct!! I don't know how many times I have to keep explaining this..... My father's been in the music/radio business for over 40yrs. and it is his job to know these things or else he'd be fired lol! Their legal team briefs him on everything he does that might require some type of clearance (like contests for instance); but he knows the basics by heart (like copyright laws).

It's awesome that cheer has gotten this big- the downside is that things like this are bound to happen. I predicted this scenario a couple of years ago. Record companies aren't exactly the nicest people in the industry. Even if a musican/band doesn't mind if their music is used in these types of situations, their record labels do, so unless they own the label too (and some of them do), you can't use it w/o their permission (aka pay for it) for profit-period. The only way it would be legal is if the mix was given to the team/gym owner/etc. and then given to the parents for free (so the gym cannot charge the parents for it). Also, the EP's could be on shaky ground, particularly if their comp is broadcast (like The Majors where we pay a company like cheerlive for the broadcast) and they don't have permission/pay the copyright fees.

 

[xtremeteal4life]

That's interesting to me, because I know that Youtube singers used to run into trouble covering songs (when it first became a "popular" thing to do) because of copyright. I'm guessing everyone in the industry stopped caring about it when Youtube covers became a big thing, though.

This is why I don't turn on "advertising " on my YouTube channel- most of my videos are of cheer teams and include the music.

 

[Cheeranswers]

Cheer Athletics Panthers- Champions League music
Cheer Athletics Panthers - Champions League 2014 by Cheer Athletics Panthers on SoundCloud - Hear the world’s sounds

wait what.. is this their music then or just for the champions league.. this is so strange!

 

[Ally13]

wait what.. is this their music then or just for the champions league.. this is so strange!

Hopefully just champs league. Which i believe it is?

 

[Cheeranswers]

Hopefully just champs league. Which i believe it is?

hope so... does that mean everyone will have to do the same?.. how am i supposed to sing along in the theatre if i don't know anyones music