All-Star Cheersport 2015

[notimeforthat]

I have a feeling that they were not going to make letterman jackets in youth sizes for possibly 20-30 kids... I think you are reading to much into it.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

This is probably going to sound more b****y than I mean it to, but here goes.

(*this is not singular to this particular thread - I feel this way every year around this time of year)

I genuinely hate when people complain about jackets. I'm sure if you asked the 2nd place team, they're not sitting in the car on their 14 hour (or 10 hour or 2 hour - whatever) ride home, thanking God they didn't win so they don't have to wear the inferior jacket.

Do you know how many kids dream of even going to Cheersport? My kids never got to go - every year they'd get their comp schedules and pray that Cheersport was on it, but it never was. My older one aged out without ever seeing the GWCC.

Do you know how many kids this was the biggest competition they'll ever see? How many kids spent their entire season gearing up for this big event?

I cannot imagine being mad about a jacket. I'm pretty sure I could find about 10,000 kids this morning who wouldn't have cared if it was made out of saran wrap, as long as they won it.

 

[TheVipersMom]

This is probably going to sound more b****y than I mean it to, but here goes.

(*this is not singular to this particular thread - I feel this way every year around this time of year)

I genuinely hate when people complain about jackets. I'm sure if you asked the 2nd place team, they're not sitting in the car on their 14 hour (or 10 hour or 2 hour - whatever) ride home, thanking God they didn't win so they don't have to wear the inferior jacket.

Do you know how many kids dream of even going to Cheersport? My kids never got to go - every year they'd get their comp schedules and pray that Cheersport was on it, but it never was. My older one aged out without ever seeing the GWCC.

Do you know how many kids this was the biggest competition they'll ever see? How many kids spent their entire season gearing up for this big event?

I cannot imagine being mad about a jacket. I'm pretty sure I could find about 10,000 kids this morning who wouldn't have cared if it was made out of saran wrap, as long as they won it.

This is so true, no matter how ugly the jacket the jacket represents something. My daughter has NCA jackets and jackets that are of much less material wise but she wears them all. My daughter would not donate any of hers she loves them that much although we misplace them from time to time.

My only complaint is either give everyone the fleece ones, or the letterman style ones. Why does only one level get them. Some kids may never compete past level 3 and that's ok but they shouldn't feel less because of it. And my daughter has 5 letterman nice sleeves ones and a random assortment of others but no fleece so she would definitely get more out of the fleece as far as wear .. I just wish they treated all them the same.

Not that can really wear any jacket in south Texas but if she could fleece is more probable than the others!

 

[Pebbles49]

Maybe since my kid is on a J3 team, but most of my attention was centered on all of the J3 teams competing and I didn't make it to see one "5" team compete except for the one I had to be present for by attendance taken from our team parent was our own level 5. I subscribed to Dartfish, though, so I could get caught up on all of the teams, because, yes, I enjoy cheer that much, but CP's team was hoping to upgrade to paid for Summit was their dream and 1st leg of triple crown. Ended up with a final score of 98.02 and third place. Yes, some of us truly care about other divisions, too, besides 5, especially when we're chasing Summit bids. I know some kids hungry for the jackets now at NCA, too, but at least they left in their blanket!! (Cheersport, they love the blankets!!) There were four small gym division J3, Three small J3 divisions, 1 large small gym J3 division and 2 large J3 divisions. Think lots of folks cared about J3, too, and other divisions, too. Don't get me wrong, love level 5, but I am fully enjoying CP's path and she will get to 5 eventually, but I'll probably be caring for the level 4 divisions greatly the next two years at least. It is what it is. Love those fleece jackets. Kids grow up too fast. Enjoy each jacket, celebrate each victory, celebrate their highest score this season, even if it meant 3rd place, and keep on admiring and be wowed by those 5 teams, but I promise I don't think less of my J3 kid and enjoying each year and each level. Yes, Cheersport may be trying different things to make it a little more appealing to lure some of the teams back that swore they'd never go back, CP's gym was one of them, first time back in three years, but I think it was the Varsity scoring and Summit bids, Worlds bids that brought our 8 or 9 teams back than the level 5 jacket.


ETA: That whole triple crown thing I think is working for them, too.

I must apologize if it appears that I was putting down anybody with cps on other levels, I was simply trying to figure this out too, why certain levels and believe me, why some levels receive one type of jackets and the level 5 received different prizes. Another thing I noticed is only level 5s are written about for numerous pages on FB and are televised. So, I primarily mentioned possible reason why the different treatment... Even on FB, I learned exactly what all the level 5 teams did in details, particularly, the large senior girls and large coed, and the writings went on for pages, but I wanted to know how my new favorite team WC StarBurst did in Cheersport, guess what? Guess what? Not a peep... Guess what, I did not read a peep about any other levels, but level 5s. So I guess in cheerleading, level 5s must be the major leagues and all other levels are in the minor leagues...This is only my perception of watching different events that is happening... Please tell me and demonstrate how I am wrong...I will love to be wrong on this matter!
PS: this is my daughter's farewell tour, so she will not experience the thrill of being on the level 5 phenomenon tour... (basketball is her new dream)
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[MZ3]

This is probably going to sound more b****y than I mean it to, but here goes.

(*this is not singular to this particular thread - I feel this way every year around this time of year)

I genuinely hate when people complain about jackets. I'm sure if you asked the 2nd place team, they're not sitting in the car on their 14 hour (or 10 hour or 2 hour - whatever) ride home, thanking God they didn't win so they don't have to wear the inferior jacket.

Do you know how many kids dream of even going to Cheersport? My kids never got to go - every year they'd get their comp schedules and pray that Cheersport was on it, but it never was. My older one aged out without ever seeing the GWCC.

Do you know how many kids this was the biggest competition they'll ever see? How many kids spent their entire season gearing up for this big event?

I cannot imagine being mad about a jacket. I'm pretty sure I could find about 10,000 kids this morning who wouldn't have cared if it was made out of saran wrap, as long as they won it.

Amen!! My daughter finally won her first Nationals two weekends ago and guess what? They replaced the jackets with sparkly backpacks this year. She is in love with her backpack and wears it proudly since it says National Champion and took her four seasons of being that 2nd or 3rd place team to earn it.


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[notyourcheermom]

I must apologize if it appears that I was putting down anybody with cps on other levels, I was simply trying to figure this out too, why certain levels and believe me, why some levels receive one type of jackets and the level 5 received different prizes. Another thing I noticed is only level 5s are written about for numerous pages on FB and are televised. So, I primarily mentioned why the different treatment... Even on FB, I learned exactly what all the level 5 teams did in details, particularly, the large senior girls and large coed, and the writings went on for pages, but I wanted to know how my new favorite team WC StarBurst do in Cheersport, guess what? Guess what? Not a peep... Guess what, I did not read a peep about any other levels, but level 5s. So I guess in cheerleading, level 5s must be the major leagues and all other levels are in the minor leagues...This is only my perception of watching different events that is happening... Please tell me and demonstrate how I am wrong...
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Not wrong. I wonder some if at the lower levels we still just can't post our routines so much, due to gym policies. (I do know some areas do.) Maybe still a little feeling of being able to keep the lower level routines hidden a little more, not Tweeted, Youtubed, etc., as soon as they perform. I'm fine with that. We'd rather show up and surprise you anyway. And some of the level 5 teams have longer standing teams that are high performers every year so people look forward to seeing what they will put out, i.e., may be different kids on team, but there will be a Panthers, SE, WCSS next year, too. We didn't have a J3 team last year, we had Y3. We don't have a Y3 team this year. Nothing to see. I would say CP is at a medium sized gym, but the lower level teams may be different year to year depending on the ages and skills of the athletes. Our Y2 team was amazing two seasons ago. We haven't had a Y2 team since. Just a few thoughts.

 

[quitthedrama]

In what sense? I am just saying that she wants that NCA jacket more than anything, and if she wins it, she wont wear much else. That NCA jacket has been her "dream" for a couple of years. She'll probably sleep in in for a week or so... I was trying to say we might as well goodwill ALL of her jackets (cheer and not cheer related) if they are fortunate enough to win NCA.

How were you interpreting it??

Exactly how you just explained it, and @Just-a-Mom pretty much summed up my response. I'm not sure why the material of the Cheersport jacket means so much to you if you are just going to donate it to goodwill or discard it in 2 weeks if you win NCA.
My CP won a cheersport jacket the first year they switched to fleece. She was disappointed when she saw them because she had a different jacket expectation, but that disappointment lasted for less than 5 minutes. She still wears that jacket even though she has an NCA one as well and every time I see her with it on it brings a smile to my face, because of what her team did to earn it! The jackets, backpacks, sweatshirts, or whatever the prize was represents some spectacular moments and I can't imagine disposing of them - each one has a story, and I think in 20 years when I look at any given prize my CP will be able to tell you something about that season, or that competition. I honestly think you and your CP realize that and hopefully some of what you are typing is getting lost in "internet translation" for lack of a better term, and maybe this was just a knee-jerk response.

 

[hercheermomma]

Congratulations to those that won jackets whether they be leather sleeves, fleece or rayon sheer mesh with bling. Given the number. of kids who performed this weekend in the hopes of getting one, and the number of kids who reached that goal, that's an amazing accomplishment. Wear them proudly (whatever they are made of).


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Mine is ecstatic to be wearing hers. Finally!!

 

[njallday]

if anyone's comments are directed at me (though guessing they are directed at someone else) just to clarify I am no longer in the sport and I had a jacket-less cheerleading career. Outside of a hooded sweater shirt or two I have zero jackets to commemorate my years cheering, and I am perfectly happy with that. I only "complain" because CHEERSPORT is the only competition that I know of that treats their national champions differently based on level. it's not even just youth 5 not getting the leather. it's level 5 and everyone else. I don't understand why they do that. that's all. didn't mean to stir the pot, if I did.

 

[Pebbles49]

I know many of you are going to hate and dislike what I am going to say... But it appears that the only Letterman jacket that matters is NCA... I noticed at my gym, there is a Cheersport Letterman jacket with leather sleeves in the loss and find bin-this jacket has been there for the last 2 or more weeks... But I noticed the cheerleaders do not dare put down their NCA jackets and will have someone hold it for them while they practice... There is something about that NCA jacket that stand out from all the other jackets even people outside the sport always make comments about this jacket when my daughter wears it.

PS : I think my daughter would have loved the fleece jackets, instead of the Letterman jacket, she always complaining that her school makes her take it off and leave it in her locker... However, the best thing, my daughter's Principal allowed her to wear the NCA jacket(only) for her 1st day back to school after winning it last year and made the announcement about her win to the school and told the kids about the importance of it, she said, everybody in the school gave her the nickname "champ".

 

[Pebbles49]

if anyone's comments are directed at me (though guessing they are directed at someone else) just to clarify I am no longer in the sport and I had a jacket-less cheerleading career. Outside of a hooded sweater shirt or two I have zero jackets to commemorate my years cheering, and I am perfectly happy with that. I only "complain" because CHEERSPORT is the only competition that I know of that treats their national champions differently based on level. it's not even just youth 5 not getting the leather. it's level 5 and everyone else. I don't understand why they do that. that's all. didn't mean to stir the pot, if I did.

No, this not true... Last year, Athletics and One Up gave Letterman jackets to only 5s, excluding R5 and all others got the sweatshirt type jackets and many people were surprise by this difference, but Athletics went back on given everyone the same jackets...

 

[njallday]

No, this not true... Last year, Athletics and One Up gave Letterman jackets to only 5s, excluding R5 and all others got the sweatshirt type jackets and many people were surprise by this difference, but Athletics went back on given everyone the same jackets...

I did not know that, or I would have complained about them too. ya learn something new everyday!

does anyone know specifically why the companies choose to give different jackets to level 5? since they're usually giving at least $50,000 to them in bids, minimum.. though with the addition of summit bids at least the lower levels are getting some money back, too!

 

[ncmomx2]

In what sense? I am just saying that she wants that NCA jacket more than anything, and if she wins it, she wont wear much else. That NCA jacket has been her "dream" for a couple of years. She'll probably sleep in in for a week or so... I was trying to say we might as well goodwill ALL of her jackets (cheer and not cheer related) if they are fortunate enough to win NCA.

How were you interpreting it??

One interpretation could be that Cheersport is a lower-grade competition and therefore the jacket/championship isn't as good. Considering I have heard a parent say that before, it can be taken as a slight.

As another parent said before, Youth 5 is a small group (with tinier athletes.) It's entirely possible that it is cost prohibitive to have 20 custom jackets made in those sizes. Maybe they should charge more for the Youth 5 teams to compete?

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[CEA_ATC]

Kinda in the vein of what @njallday said, I hope everyone realizes that what all of you are raging about is EXACTLY why I spoke with CP when she got home and I could see some of that disappointment. Talking about being gracious and appreciative (which she was-- the kid hates losing, but has experienced it) was what we were talking about. I actually put her face in my hands and looked her in the eye and asked her "Would you find it insulting if you had lost and the champs complained about the jackets?". She gets it, and I am trying to teach those life lessons. Our biggest issue is feeling like that level was the only level 5 that didn't get that recognition (it is not really about the fabric of the sleeves- it is about busting your hump to hit level 5 and getting that distinction) and then being given the impression from the EP that your accomplishment is "not the same". She's 10 years old, for heaven's sake... she wears her emotions on her sleeve... She fought for level 2, 3, 4, and 5... and it hurt her some to not get some of that distinction she sees kids around her (and some teammates who are J5) getting. Patience is difficult for most 10 year olds, her included.

The comments about Goodwill-ing the other jackets were LACED in sarcasm. She wears all her old jackets again, eventually (except for the UCA one- little fashionista won't wear satin jackets - but proudly displays it on her wall)... And I don't know why, but that NCA jacket is different for her. Maybe because we see fewer of them, since the Dallas trip is reserved for fewer of our teams. That one will get a lot more wear than the others, if she gets to put it on.

I am trying to teach the lessons you are talking about, and speak with her about it. Maybe it is "lost in translation", we all are trying to produce good kids, and we learned from the whole thing.

 

[CEA_ATC]

One interpretation could be that Cheersport is a lower-grade competition and therefore the jacket/championship isn't as good. Considering I have heard a parent say that before, it can be taken as a slight.

As another parent said before, Youth 5 is a small group (with tinier athletes.) It's entirely possible that it is cost prohibitive to have 20 custom jackets made in those sizes. Maybe they should charge more for the Youth 5 teams to compete?

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Sizing reasons make sense, but most EPs carry youth sizes for the fetuses flying in Senior divisions, too. I handed jackets out to teams from the Sr divisions at our bid event, and cannot tell you how many Youth sizes I gave out... esp those TG girls... they are TINY!!!