All-Star Nca Nationals Hotels

ChicagoCheerDad · Jul 25, 2017

luv2cheer92 said:
I believe the $1200 for the weekend came from someone above mentioning the Hyatt being about $400/night.

I missed that, but I should add that is wasn't, it was actually under $300 per night($286 to be exact). My CP would have loved to stay there but we decided the extra expenses wasn't worth the convenience. With tax it would be around $331. I am positive on this.

luv2cheer92 · Jul 25, 2017

ChicagoCheerDad said:
I missed that, but I should add that is wasn't, it was actually under $300 per night($286 to be exact). My CP would have loved to stay there but we decided the extra expenses wasn't worth the convenience. With tax it would be around $331. I am positive on this.

Still crazy high! This is where I am happy that I live in Dallas and don't have to deal with hotels.

ETA: Just looked at this same hotel on a random weekend and it is around $155, that's almost double!

ChicagoCheerDad · Jul 25, 2017

luv2cheer92 said:
Still crazy high! This is where I am happy that I live in Dallas and don't have to deal with hotels.

ETA: Just looked at this same hotel on a random weekend and it is around $155, that's almost double!

Yes, I actually have corporate rates at all these hotels that I cannot use because of STP. On a weekend with a big convention you are paying at tax STP or not for being attached to the convention center. It is not different here in Chicago when a big convention or sporting event is in town.

Bella's mom · Jul 25, 2017

For the last 2 years we have used points to stay. It's ridiculous that they make you stay at certains hotels. This is a huge competition, it's not like the hotels aren't going to get business.

cheermomforever · Jul 25, 2017

Bella's mom said:
For the last 2 years we have used points to stay. It's ridiculous that they make you stay at certains hotels. This is a huge competition, it's not like the hotels aren't going to get business.

hubby works for Hyatt and I got exempted from STP last year. This year I got a rate for $30/night less at our team hotel that I am hoping to get permission for.

lifeoftheparty · Jul 25, 2017

luv2cheer92 said:
Still crazy high! This is where I am happy that I live in Dallas and don't have to deal with hotels.

ETA: Just looked at this same hotel on a random weekend and it is around $155, that's almost double!

We stay at the Hyatt when all is said and done its 900 for a 3 night stay.

emo_wifey · Jul 26, 2017

ChicagoCheerDad said:
I missed that, but I should add that is wasn't, it was actually under $300 per night($286 to be exact). My CP would have loved to stay there but we decided the extra expenses wasn't worth the convenience. With tax it would be around $331. I am positive on this.

The Omni, Hyatt Regency, and Aloft downtown are all listed at $399 a night. Maybe it wasn't but that's what it is now.

ETA: With a three night minimum also

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Teacher Mom · Jul 26, 2017

emo_wifey said:
The Omni, Hyatt Regency, and Aloft downtown are all listed at $399 a night. Maybe it wasn't but that's what it is now.

ETA: With a three night minimum also

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That's what I was quoting. People must be booking with exemptions. With STP it is around $1150 for 3 nights

emo_wifey · Jul 26, 2017

Teacher Mom said:
That's what I was quoting. People must be booking with exemptions. With STP it is around $1150 for 3 nights

The dad I quoted said he would use corporate rates but couldn't because of STP. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That's not including parking, food, travel, etc. etc. I don't know how people do it!

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lifeoftheparty · Jul 26, 2017

Teacher Mom said:
That's what I was quoting. People must be booking with exemptions. With STP it is around $1150 for 3 nights

We booked with STP. That is what I paid last year at NCA. 900 for 3 nights.

Cheerfun2 · Jul 26, 2017

What it is, is friggin robbery...plain & simple. Those Omni rooms are NOT $400 a night hotel rooms. We are held hostage by STP. Such a racket.

ChicagoCheerDad · Jul 26, 2017

Cheerfun2 said:
What it is, is friggin robbery...plain & simple. Those Omni rooms are NOT $400 a night hotel rooms. We are held hostage by STP. Such a racket.

STP is actually not a racket, the way these big events work, I don't know who else has ever been involved in planning a large event but here is how it works when you have an event that has this many people attending:
The competition puts out a bid to the city or cities, as part of the bid they have to guarantee a certain number hotel rooms to be blocked and available for attendees and the event producer must promise to fill those rooms. They bid and negotiate costs such as facility rental, police and security, set up,labor, ads, promotions etc.

The only real way for both the city and the event to track the rooms and make sure the guarantee is met is through something like STP, otherwise we would end up paying a much higher competition fees in order to cover the real cost that go on for putting on an event this size.

alpaca · Jul 26, 2017

ChicagoCheerDad said:
STP is actually not a racket, the way these big events work, I don't know who else has ever been involved in planning a large event but here is how it works when you have an event that has this many people attending:
The competition puts out a bid to the city or cities, as part of the bid they have to guarantee a certain number hotel rooms to be blocked and available for attendees and the event producer must promise to fill those rooms. They bid and negotiate costs such as facility rental, police and security, set up,labor, ads, promotions etc.

The only real way for both the city and the event to track the rooms and make sure the guarantee is met is through something like STP, otherwise we would end up paying a much higher competition fees in order to cover the real cost that go on for putting on an event this size.

I'm interested in understanding this better. Does the hotel charge a higher rate and then kick back some of the rate to the event planner who uses it to subsidize the event?

Teacher Mom · Jul 26, 2017

alpaca said:
I'm interested in understanding this better. Does the hotel charge a higher rate and then kick back some of the rate to the event planner who uses it to subsidize the event?

They must because when you look at other weekends prices go down $100 or more per night.

catlady · Jul 26, 2017

Cheerfun2 said:
What it is, is friggin robbery...plain & simple. Those Omni rooms are NOT $400 a night hotel rooms. We are held hostage by STP. Such a racket.

Well someone better tell the Texas Federation of Republican women, because they're paying $998 for two nights on booking.com for October 19-21.

If you look at Kay Bailey's event calendar at some of the highly populated events, they are paying about the same give or take $50 per night. Even the Texas school board convention goers were paying $350 a night Oct 6-8.

alpaca said:
I'm interested in understanding this better. Does the hotel charge a higher rate and then kick back some of the rate to the event planner who uses it to subsidize the event?

Event planners generally receive rebates from these hotels, but they use that money to go toward event expenses. They are shooting for a certain profit margin and whether it's rebates from hotels or increased comp fees they will do what they have to do to make their margins.

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