All-Star Worlds Age Change???

XtremeWpg said:

I wonder if things like Fundamentals and Novice would be excluded from these events.

If they're meant to be introductory compared to Prep and Elite All Star, wouldn't it make sense to limit who attends these huge nationals like NCA and CheerSport? I don't think the point is to make more competition, I think it's to give more kids access to cheer?

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For gyms around the country, sure. But for gyms that are local to Texas or Georgia and have a driving distance under a few hours, I could see them wanting to attend.

I'm going to be very interested to see how the local gyms in my area market their try-outs this year. Like I said in another thread, or maybe this one, I'm not sure---my youngest would LOVE to go back to an all-star type format for cheerleading, BUT she will never...and I mean ever, tumble, so I have a hard time justifying the cost to reward. She could fit nicely into a Novice level team, get to experience performing on stage (which is what she likes) and not have to worry about the fact that the girl will never be able to do a cartwheel.

luv2cheer92 said:

I also don't know if anybody else noticed in the note at the bottom of the age grid. It says that background checks are an eligibility requirement for any adults on an open team.

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I wonder what background checks they mean. Proof of age, criminal record checks, child welfare? Is this designed to keep creepy people away from under-agers? I wonder who is responsible for paying for this, as I know there is a cost to them in my area. And I worry that this will create a false feeling of safety for some when not everyone has a record.

luv2cheer92 said:

One is international and one is not international. No confirmation on this, but my interpretation is that Open 5 will follow USASF rules and International will follow IASF rules. Which may bring back the basket and tumbling rules they tried to put in place earlier this season (purely speculation). And therefore, I would see most of the top teams opting to go with the non-international Open 5 divisions.

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Open 5 will give some 12 year olds the ability to be on a Worlds team... Here is why -
Those that turned 12 after August 31st but before January 1st will still be eligible for Worlds on the new Open 5 divisions next season because they will be 14 on or before December 31st 2019... Those kids that meet these dates start the season out as 12 year olds.

@Jonathan Brouillette agree that doesn't make sense

RobinSparkles said:

That part made me wonder how they're planning on enforcing that for international teams, since results from vulnerable sector checks cannot be sent outside of Canada. In theory it's a good idea, but it'll be hard to enforce. Especially since like you said, charges that were dismissed/stayed/withdrawn don't show up.

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It's a USASF thing so maybe just for US teams? Not sure about that

WinstonsGirl said:

I wonder what background checks they mean. Proof of age, criminal record checks, child welfare? Is this designed to keep creepy people away from under-agers? I wonder who is responsible for paying for this, as I know there is a cost to them in my area. And I worry that this will create a false feeling of safety for some when not everyone has a record.

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I think it's positive that they are making an effort to identify criminals. I don't know if they they do that now for international. It would make me feel a little better if I was a parent of an underage child on a team with adults knowing that they did this. Likely the cost would be part of the fees paid by these athletes. I know it won't catch everyone but hopefully some will get caught or at least deter those from trying out that have a record.

Jonathan Brouillette said:

Open 5 will give some 12 year olds the ability to be on a Worlds team... Here is why -
Those that turned 12 after August 31st but before January 1st will still be eligible for Worlds on the new Open 5 divisions next season because they will be 14 on or before December 31st 2019... Those kids that meet these dates start the season out as 12 year olds.

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Yeah, I'm just realizing it says December 31, 2019. That doesn't make any sense. Why would you base it on a birthday you won't even have during the season? That seems like a typo or something. LOL ‍

CClilbit said:

Yeah, I'm just realizing it says December 31, 2019. That doesn't make any sense. Why would you base it on a birthday you won't even have during the season? That seems like a typo or something. LOL ‍

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That has been the date used for the Open divisions for a few seasons now, it's not a typo.

It has always been that way for the international open 5.

luv2cheer92 said:

That has been the date used for the Open divisions for a few seasons now, it's not a typo.

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But wouldnt it be the dec 31 of the year of the season? Like 2018 because that is during the season? Dec 31, 2019 is 6 months after the season is over. I guess I never paid attention.

CClilbit said:

But wouldnt it be the dec 31 of the year of the season? Like 2018 because that is during the season? Dec 31, 2019 is 6 months after the season is over. I guess I never paid attention.

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The bulk of next season will occur in 2019 and it is during the year of competition. For example, in order to be on an open team this season, you will have to turn 14 (or 17) by December 31, 2018.

So basically at no point when they're competing (June 2018-May 2019) do they actually have to BE 14. I guess its just a weird way to do it IMHO. Just say 13. But no ones asking me. :-D ha ha

CClilbit said:

So basically at no point when they're competing (June 2018-May 2019) do they actually have to BE 14. I guess its just a weird way to do it IMHO. Just say 13. But no ones asking me. :-D ha ha

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It's more to line up with the countries outside of the US who have a completely different season than we do. That was the big reason for it when it first started that way a few seasons ago. Then I guess the USASF divisions just wanted to match the IASF ones in regards to age.

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So basically at no point when they're competing (June 2018-May 2019) do they actually have to BE 14. I guess its just a weird way to do it IMHO. Just say 13. But no ones asking me. :-D ha ha

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The way I remember is —you have to be 14 by the end of the year that you would compete at worlds. So basically anyone who turned 12 sept 1- dec 31 can compete IOC this season since worlds is in 2018 and they will be 14 in 2018.