All-Star Covid-19 / Varsity Response

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I don’t understand this at all. We taped last weekend for a virtual Comp. Videos were released this Saturday and results not until Tuesday- it’s the longest process ever.... if you don’t want to release the winners on Sat what about Sunday or Monday and then have them included in the standard bid reveals. It’s too frustrating

Most of these virtual competitions seem to be posting their results at 7PM on the Tuesday following the weekend of the event. Imagine not knowing the results of NCA Nationals until 2 days after it happens. I'm hoping there will be an attempt to make that competition feel a little more "real" since it's normally a big deal. Can we at least get results the day the videos are released. This should not be too much to ask of a sport.
 
Some people are acting as if keeping kids isolated from school and sports and wearing masks don't have any long term effects on their brain and physical health, as well. Stress, isolation, muscle atrophy, loneliness, increased screen and social media, and babies and young children learning facial expressions and relating it to emotional recognition..... I am more concerned about the long term effects of those things on the world versus a virus that has proven to spread whether we're locked down or not. I 100% believe the initial lockdowns were needed, I 100% know we can't overwhelm our healthcare, but to continue to ignore the well established basics of mental and physical development on our kids, and deterioration on our elderly, is incredibly irresponsible and cruel. An article pre C-19 on the importance of faces for babies and young children <click here>.
As a professional in the field of psychology, there is no comparison between the isolation of nursing homes to children who can’t go to school or practice. Parents may create learning pods and many children already have siblings. Babies needs interaction but they don’t need to read facial expressions of strangers. They are not isolated children locked away like those in psychological studies. The parental reaction and nurturing is enough for them to successfully develop. Some children are home schooled and live relatively isolated and they don’t experience the symptoms you have mentioned. Muscle atrophy shouldn’t be an issue since they aren’t locked in tiny rooms. There are zoom calls, online classes, playing outside, working out in the home. It is up to the parent to model behaviors and limit screen time. We have seen families that are more active and free from stress as well. It is all about how it is managed. I stand by the statement that if the family makes the best of a difficult situation the kids are way more resilient than people think.
 
As a professional in the field of psychology, there is no comparison between the isolation of nursing homes to children who can’t go to school or practice. Parents may create learning pods and many children already have siblings. Babies needs interaction but they don’t need to read facial expressions of strangers. They are not isolated children locked away like those in psychological studies. The parental reaction and nurturing is enough for them to successfully develop. Some children are home schooled and live relatively isolated and they don’t experience the symptoms you have mentioned. Muscle atrophy shouldn’t be an issue since they aren’t locked in tiny rooms. There are zoom calls, online classes, playing outside, working out in the home. It is up to the parent to model behaviors and limit screen time. We have seen families that are more active and free from stress as well. It is all about how it is managed. I stand by the statement that if the family makes the best of a difficult situation the kids are way more resilient than people think.
As a professional in the field of psychology I am surprised you are assuming all families will "make the best of a difficult situation". I have no education or psychology degree, but I worked in an inner city low income school district and you have no idea the number of families that barely have a situation - let alone expecting them to set up a learning environment. Add to that the rampant drug use and physical and mental abuse that kids in some home situations across the country in all demographics are dealing with. School was an outlet for so many of these kids. It's criminal that these kids have been neglected and left to live in those situations 24/7.
 
I'm up in Canada and it's so bewildering to me that live events are even a thing anywhere right now.

Where I am, our gym has been closed since November 1. We don't know when/if we can open. Next update on restrictions is on January 22 so, fingers crossed. All recreational activities have been closed, so all these kids have almost no outlets anymore. And the fines for opening or doing things against the health orders are hefty.

We cannot:
- Eat in a restaurant (take out only)
- Have any hair or aesthetics appointments
- Cannot buy clothing, toys, books, games and wildly long list of other items because they're "non-essential"
- No one can gather indoors whatsoever, outdoors it can be your household plus 5 if you're wearing a mask and distanced
- All elective medical procedures are stopped, there's no room. Therapy etc must be virtual
- Too many other things to consider because it's crazy

In Ontario they're strict stay-at-home orders. Quebec has a curfew. All this to say, we don't have near the pressure, strain or caseload of what's happening in some states, and we're just all holed up and waiting. Our vaccine roll out is, at best, moving at a glacial pace.

It has been hard; not being able to go anywhere or do anything unless it's out doors. Now imagine your average daily temperature is around 5F.

We'll be lucky if we see a competitive season in this country. And even more lucky if gyms make it out alive.
I'm so wildly envious of any gym able to be open and practice and train. It seems so impossible where I am.
I had to go back through as I remember this specific comment after seeing some videos posted over the weekend ;)
 
As a professional in the field of psychology, there is no comparison between the isolation of nursing homes to children who can’t go to school or practice. Parents may create learning pods and many children already have siblings. Babies needs interaction but they don’t need to read facial expressions of strangers. They are not isolated children locked away like those in psychological studies. The parental reaction and nurturing is enough for them to successfully develop. Some children are home schooled and live relatively isolated and they don’t experience the symptoms you have mentioned. Muscle atrophy shouldn’t be an issue since they aren’t locked in tiny rooms. There are zoom calls, online classes, playing outside, working out in the home. It is up to the parent to model behaviors and limit screen time. We have seen families that are more active and free from stress as well. It is all about how it is managed. I stand by the statement that if the family makes the best of a difficult situation the kids are way more resilient than people think.
Yes some families are doing great, some families are enjoying having parents home and not gone 12 hours a day. But some are struggling terribly! A family where parents lost their jobs, lost their insurance, struggle to help their kids with homework even they dont understand. Some families cannot make the best of these time.
 
Honestly i think there is no right way to handle this pandemic. People get into arguments of all sorts because everyone thinks they know what's best. But who really know what's best? The longer this has been going on the more i feel like everyone is just desperately trying their best to find a way to get out of this tragedy. Governments don't even really know what to do, measures are being taken, then restrictions are being dismissed only to come back stricter whenever numbers are rising again. People get Covid with masks and without masks, people die over the age of 65 and at the age of 20. Isolation is taking a toll on children, parents, people with mental health issues, on older folks who don't have anyone but the people they meet at their Senior Club which they can not go to right now. So many situations and so many stories.
It will probably take years to really figure out the long term effects this will have on the body, the mind, the economy, everything.
We need to be a little kinder to each other , i feel like that is the only thing we can do. Mind our business and accept that people have different opinions and different stories.
Sorry for the rant!
 
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As a professional in the field of psychology, there is no comparison between the isolation of nursing homes to children who can’t go to school or practice. Parents may create learning pods and many children already have siblings. Babies needs interaction but they don’t need to read facial expressions of strangers. They are not isolated children locked away like those in psychological studies. The parental reaction and nurturing is enough for them to successfully develop. Some children are home schooled and live relatively isolated and they don’t experience the symptoms you have mentioned. Muscle atrophy shouldn’t be an issue since they aren’t locked in tiny rooms. There are zoom calls, online classes, playing outside, working out in the home. It is up to the parent to model behaviors and limit screen time. We have seen families that are more active and free from stress as well. It is all about how it is managed. I stand by the statement that if the family makes the best of a difficult situation the kids are way more resilient than people think.

I never compared the elderly to children and I never stated kids weren't resilient, those are your additions. What I did say is some people are acting as if the above things don't have long term effects on brain and physical health.

While I respect you're a professional in psychology, my youngest is currently majoring in psychology and the above mentioned are studies they are conducting, following and studying during C-19. The studies to choose from are never ending: The impact masks have had on the hearing impaired, communication, lack of facial interaction with strangers, and yes, concern for infants and children since those are critical years of identifying who they know/don't know and comparing/reading emotion. The impact of online schooling (not even close to home schooling) for children in poor areas, for those learning how to read and write, those without siblings, with parents working out of the home, single parents, young children home alone, dietary changes. They are studying children's increased social media and screen time, kids hygiene, children's sleep changes, depression, decreased exercise. The impact on college students with internships and new employees learning in professional jobs that are currently being done from home. The impact of job loss, loss of benefits, increased poverty levels, increased parental/spousal stress, increased drinking and drug usage. They are following the increased anti-anxiety med usage, lack of psychiatric beds, suicides and suicide ideation, the impact on hospital workers. They are studying masks and loss of facial recognition in the elderly, rapid declines in dementia patients, lack of social and physical stimulation, increased strokes/heart attacks, increased sleep and hallucinations.... While no doubt most families are making the best of it and kids are resilient, that has absolutely nothing to do with the long term impacts of all of the above.

ETA: @HeatUniqueJ I 100% agree handling a pandemic is the unknown and people need to be kind. I do believe these conversations, even heated ones are important, because everyone's situation is different and we often try to make our reality, everyone else's.
 
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Literally don’t know why this was disliked ... like I get that masks are important and should be worn but good grief - there MAY come a day where we MAY be able to take them off... please allow yourself to be open to actual FACTS provided by valid sources- one day experts and physicians could tell us we are safe without them.
Right...some people are not willing to open up there mind to facts....
 
We have two potential in person comps on our schedule. I'm not going to lie, I'm nervous. I've worked so hard to keep my kids safe and healthy, and I do worry about the long term effects on then heart and brain. Sadly, I suspect my kids have all already had it. We were deathly ill in February and two weeks later, the case count around us exploded and we know with certainty we had been around friends whose grandmother was in a care facility that was devastated by it. We all seem to be fine, but I'll never really know. If that was it, I really don't want it again!!! The cases of covid inflammation syndrome in kids are rising also. I'm not going to keep my kids locked in a bubble, but I don't allow them around people who don't adhere to safety guidelines. My friends kids are required to hav weekly testing to play football. I don't see why varsity couldn't require it before a comp. it's far from a perfect science, but it would help.

There is far few tests and they have such high demand to use them for testing thousand of kids before a comp, Also, god forbid you get a positive case, the gym shuts done, the team can't compete, the family has to quarantine...so on.
test need to be saved for those that actually need it
 
No degree here just a parental observation. I have 2 high achieving and athletic kids here; my hubs and I both work full time and since infancy they kids have been up at 630am and out of the house by 7am before school care, school, after school care / clubs , and then sports at night. And they thrived.
Now they are home all the time- school work is far too easy - they are done by lunch. They have zero motivation because there is nothing happening- no urgency to get things done because tomorrow is just an extension of today. It is winter in the Northeast here so not a lot outside activity. They are no longer interested in all the fun stuff we did back in March- the puzzles, games nights, research projects, etc.

They study on hygiene is interesting- with nowhere to go I can barely get my son in the shower (previously he showered everyday).

They are bored and depressed. Cheer is the only outlet my daughter has. All my sons sports are canceled. Gifted and talented programs are just online meets. I wouldn’t considered online meets interacting with others/ it is isolating.

I don’t have any answers but to brush over the effects this has on kids is short sited. Yes they are resilient but this lifestyle is not healthy.


I never compared the elderly to children and I never stated kids weren't resilient, those are your additions. What I did say is some people are acting as if the above things don't have long term effects on brain and physical health.

While I respect you're a professional in psychology, my youngest is currently majoring in psychology and the above mentioned are studies they are conducting, following and studying during C-19. The studies to choose from are never ending: The impact masks have had on the hearing impaired, communication, lack of facial interaction with strangers, and yes, concern for infants and children since those are critical years of identifying who they know/don't know and comparing/reading emotion. The impact of online schooling (not even close to home schooling) for children in poor areas, for those learning how to read and write, those without siblings, with parents working out of the home, single parents, young children home alone, dietary changes. They are studying children's increased social media and screen time, kids hygiene, children's sleep changes, depression, decreased exercise. The impact on college students with internships and new employees learning in professional jobs that are currently being done from home. The impact of job loss, loss of benefits, increased poverty levels, increased parental/spousal stress, increased drinking and drug usage. They are following the increased anti-anxiety med usage, lack of psychiatric beds, suicides and suicide ideation, the impact on hospital workers. They are studying masks and loss of facial recognition in the elderly, rapid declines in dementia patients, lack of social and physical stimulation, increased strokes/heart attacks, increased sleep and hallucinations.... While no doubt most families are making the best of it and kids are resilient, that has absolutely nothing to do with the long term impacts of all of the abo

ETA: @HeatUniqueJ I 100% agree handling a pandemic is the unknown and people need to be kind. I do believe these conversations, even heated ones are important, because everyone's situation is different and we often try to make our reality, everyone else's.
 
It is almost impossible to find testing near me. Test should be for those who need them.

There is far few tests and they have such high demand to use them for testing thousand of kids before a comp, Also, god forbid you get a positive case, the gym shuts done, the team can't compete, the family has to quarantine...so on.
test need to be saved for those that actually need it
 
I see lots of school districts open/running face-to-face. Proof that it can be done safely.

Yes. I believe with mandatory masks and attempts at distancing, school is fairly safe. My kids go to school. CP had to quarantine twice bc of “exposure” but was fine. She wore her mask and wasn’t really close to anyone.
 
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No degree here just a parental observation. I have 2 high achieving and athletic kids here; my hubs and I both work full time and since infancy they kids have been up at 630am and out of the house by 7am before school care, school, after school care / clubs , and then sports at night. And they thrived.
Now they are home all the time- school work is far too easy - they are done by lunch. They have zero motivation because there is nothing happening- no urgency to get things done because tomorrow is just an extension of today. It is winter in the Northeast here so not a lot outside activity. They are no longer interested in all the fun stuff we did back in March- the puzzles, games nights, research projects, etc.

They study on hygiene is interesting- with nowhere to go I can barely get my son in the shower (previously he showered everyday).

They are bored and depressed. Cheer is the only outlet my daughter has. All my sons sports are canceled. Gifted and talented programs are just online meets. I wouldn’t considered online meets interacting with others/ it is isolating.

I don’t have any answers but to brush over the effects this has on kids is short sited. Yes they are resilient but this lifestyle is not healthy.
My kiddo has been going downhill all year. Honor society student, dance team captain, retired all star world bronze medalist, very social. NOW shes antisocial, very depressed, barely passing her classes, and has had her senior year totally crapped on. Most senior activities have been cancelled. No homecoming, no prom, no senior skip days, project graduation, yearbook, heck even dance team pictures haven't been taken for said yearbook. No student council activities. No seniors in the football programs. All little things but when taken all together, basically senior year all the things kids look forward to are gone. She has zero motivation.
 
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