All-Star All-levels Winners Flying On The Left?

cheergirlx12 said:

once at a competition i saw someone do a prep double but she twisted right....strangest thing ive ever seen

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When I first started learning fulls I naturally wanted to twist to the right because I pirouette better to the right. I would literally initiate my full, then turn the other way and end up in a straight cradle Once I got to one leg skills, it made so much more sense going to the left and it was so much easier too. But I still have issues with my double leg doubles, I even twisted left and then untwisted right once and have no idea how it happened

Fameous MOM said:

Doesn't it score better if you twist while still in an arabesque as apposed to putting your foot down?

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not anymore, if i'm reading the rules correctly lol

If they are going to make flying on the left leg illegal you might as well make all those ugly double downs from teams that fly on the right leg illegal too. Ugly double downs bother me way more then flying on the left leg.

I actually think flyers should be able to fly on both legs. It doesn't look so pretty when a team goes to do a stretch to stretch and they can barely pull their stretch on the one side. That is what bothered me when I watched UK do their tic tocs in their routines because those girls already barely pull them on the right so when they pull it on the left leg it looks even worse.

That does look weird.
As a flyer, I'm naturally more flexible standing on my left leg and pulling things with my right. It feels awkward to me in the air, but I can do both legs pretty well. I know girls that can not stand on the left leg, like, in a pyramid my coach had to work around that because a girl couldn't do the opposite leg. Then again she just never stood up, but she wasn't that flexible on the other leg either. It's important to be strong doing both, but the "traditional" way is much better.

One of my personal goals is to keep my kids cheering as long as possible...and that means preparing them to cheer in college.

As the gym owner for one of the teams in question...Crimson Heat. I have to voice a clear position on this. First and foremost, there is no right or wrong leg for stunting. There are no policies or regulations which define or specify a standard for stunting on a particular leg. It is accurate that there is a "common" way but common or typical does not mean better.

For years, my program stunted on the opposite leg and was very successful in this industry. Teaching skills like tick-tocks has been a little easier because our kids have balanced for years on the "other" leg and the reality is in college, students may have to fly on either leg especially in pyramids. I have commented on this issue on a similar thread before. Why continue to criticize or critique a team for doing something different especially if it is working for them. It does not make the coach old school or incompetent and it does not in any way make the team or their skills less competitive.

Just let the kids cheer, have fun and do their thing...

MomOf2ThatsMe said:

CP uses both, but not the way you think... she pulls stretches and bows using her left leg as her support. She does arabesques, scorps, and scales with the right leg as her support leg. She does full downs twisting left, but hasn't tried full downs from one leg, only two.

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So does my cp . Imo it makes them more versatile especially when it comes to pyramids, those girls balance it out.

southerngirl90 said:

As the gym owner for one of the teams in question...Crimson Heat. I have to voice a clear position on this. First and foremost, there is no right or wrong leg for stunting. There are no policies or regulations which define or specify a standard for stunting on a particular leg. It is accurate that there is a "common" way but common or typical does not mean better.

For years, my program stunted on the opposite leg and was very successful in this industry. Teaching skills like tick-tocks has been a little easier because our kids have balanced for years on the "other" leg and the reality is in college, students may have to fly on either leg especially in pyramids. I have commented on this issue on a similar thread before. Why continue to criticize or critique a team for doing something different especially if it is working for them. It does not make the coach old school or incompetent and it does not in any way make the team or their skills less competitive.

Just let the kids cheer, have fun and do their thing...

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Shimmy times 1,000!

southerngirl90 said:

As the gym owner for one of the teams in question...Crimson Heat. I have to voice a clear position on this. First and foremost, there is no right or wrong leg for stunting. There are no policies or regulations which define or specify a standard for stunting on a particular leg. It is accurate that there is a "common" way but common or typical does not mean better.

For years, my program stunted on the opposite leg and was very successful in this industry. Teaching skills like tick-tocks has been a little easier because our kids have balanced for years on the "other" leg and the reality is in college, students may have to fly on either leg especially in pyramids. I have commented on this issue on a similar thread before. Why continue to criticize or critique a team for doing something different especially if it is working for them. It does not make the coach old school or incompetent and it does not in any way make the team or their skills less competitive.

Just let the kids cheer, have fun and do their thing...

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I have used Crimson Heat as an example on this subject in a few other threads. I have nothing but the utmost respect for your program, and always look forward to seeing you guys around at competitions! I've been a fan ever since your Sr 3 team wiped the floor with mine at Return to Atlantis about 6 years ago lol. You were not a team I had in mind when starting this thread, but I'm glad you responded. In a world where tick tocks are becoming the norm in all levels, there is definitely an advantage to having a flyer that can pull body positions on both sides. I dont believe, however, that I have seen any college teams who fly on predominantly the left leg in quite some time. Most of the gyms who I know of who once flew on the left are now doing exactly what you've done with 5Alarm and switched to the right. They looked great this year!

To me, as a coach, I want my kids to "cheer, have fun, do their thing," but I also want to make sure that I am putting them in a position to succeed in the present and in the future. When they graduate and want to cheer in college, if I haven't given them enough tumbling or prepared them to stunt the "common" way, or taught them the best technique in doing things, then I'll feel so guilty. All the time, I'm seeing kids graduate who I think I could have done better with, and it just makes me feel bad

I think the leg issue to me is more an issue that is similar to pleated skirts or keds or teams with neon colors. A team could wear them and still be just as competive, throwing the same skills, etc, but it's more about the aesthetic. (Though, Bangkok with their little pleated skirts are still the DEAL lol)

If you guys are so allergic to stunting on the "wrong" leg don't you ever do tic tocks or pyramids? We have to be able to stunt on both legs (I thought everyone at advanced level did..) .. my coach wouldn't be happy at all if one of our flyers couldn't go up on the left leg in a pyramid or twist down from it.. I hate it when you can tell that its the flyer's "wrong" leg ..
If you can do both you don't have to worry about a new gym stunting on the other leg..

And for partner stunt..does it really matter that much if it isn't one armed stunts? And it's possible to turn to the left to catch a cradle it the flyer twist to the wrong side