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SmileyRyleigh said:

i just think they should have made it seem like there were 36, not one.

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The purpose of the show wasn't to give the team's story. Jay (2by2) was already doing that on youtube for senior elite this year. The purpose was to inform people outside of the cheer world, and help to change the view that they have on our sport.

I thought the show was wonderfully put together. And i'm not going to lie I teared up a bit watching Maddie cry during the after day 2 performance interview. I thought CNN did a GREAT job portraying what we really go through being allstar cheerleaders and I wished it didn't end so soon.

I don't get the reason for all the angry hasty tweets and rude comments. When your directly asked a question, your most likely going to respond with I. Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill and analyzing EVERY word she or anyone else said on the show. Maddie seems so humble and whole hearted I just can't imagine saying all those rude things about her. Granted, I think I bleed teal, but that is neither her nor there. If this was World Cup in the same situation and Kelsey Rule had a show mostly based on her, and her injury leading up to worlds and such... I wouldn't be saying hurtful things about her, or anyone else for that matter. She seemed so brave to do that interview right after her performance. Are you kidding me? How many of you (the ones being rude) would be able to answer questions with CNN after you did not have your best performance at worlds in finals and keep your composure? All i'm saying is stop over analyzing everything and hanging on every word she said. Whether any of you like it or not, she is the center flyer for a reason and yes there ARE 35 other people on SE, but they chose to do it on her because she is such a cheerlebrity and had the most interesting story for the show. Just be happy they even put our sport on national television and it was a true representation.

that is all.

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meanj said:

the gym he cheers for is not often on the radars here.

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I dont think it fair to diss a gym based on one snarky comment, especially if you dont mention what gym your from . . .

My take on it was Maddie was brilliant in the piece. I doubt she asked for all the attention she recieved from CNN, but she handled it EXtremely well. Fair or not she is the face of Senior Elite, and possibly allstar cheerleading. I loved how they mentioned her four AP classes, and what she does to get homework done. Allstar cheerleading was taken seriously and put on in a positive light and we are complaining about petty stuff like the context of a sentence smh.

My view on this:
1) I judge cheer documentaries based upon if they truly show our sport's athleticism: accomplished
2) As for the whole CEA deal: when you are considered a high profile athlete...positivity and negativity just comes with the territory. I'm sure CEA and Maddie knew there would be some backlash, but I think for the most part it has been positive.
3) The whole Maddie deal:
If there was anyone I would tell Maddie to research it would be Tim Tebow. A lot was made of how he was always "in the spotlight", and he didn't win a national championship on his own. People either love him or hate him. People love him for his athleticism, his faith, for being a positive role model, and for being a great guy in front/behind the cameras. People also dislike him for the same reason. Just comes with the territory.
To Maddie, great job handling the pressure and on your interviews. I sense a career in TV journalism in your future possibly. To CEA great job representing the sport.
4) I'm with Cory, I was hoping to see some shots of coed teams.

I loved the show. I'm very thankful and appreciate CNN showing we are a sport and not your stereotypical cheerleaders. Maddie handled herself very well. I can't find a problem with her at all.

As for a future show, I would love to see more blood, sweat, and tears. We got the tears but I would love to see all the conditioning and more physically demanding parts. Such as a girl on my team got her tooth knocked out, got it wired back in a came right back to practice. I feel a someone outside of cheer will be really shocked and impressed, and might view us differently. (not saying this show won't change views because it will!)

I think somewhere planning this idea it went awry. I think (and people should be over it) it is good discussing why it upset people now.

Maddie is a victim of poor planning and execution. The more I think about it the more I realize it was kinda 'doomed' for a bit of cheer World failure. Whoever was the cheer consultant on this one (and I doubt it was CEA because you wouldn't consult the subject you are doing a documentary on) dropped the ball.

We will probably never get a answer straight from the producer but this is what I know of how this all developed:

- CNN followed SSX, Orange, and some Smoke athletes starting at CHEERSPORT intending to do a documentary on the teams road to Worlds. I watched them follow and do numerous interviews on a number of different athletes.
- When they went back to each of the gyms to film more footage, at some point they decided to start interviewing SE athletes and follow them
- They followed all these teams to Worlds and you can see the end result

I am sure my view of it is not 100% accurate, but the point is that it started as one idea and in the end they built a story around what they thought would be best. It's THEIR show so we should respect their decision to do so. If we want to see different coverage of our sport, then WE should look at ourselves and wonder how we are portraying ourselves as a sport. The organization, competition structure, and especially the image (yes--hair, make-up, uniform, and bows).

We should all appreciate if someone on our team or elsewhere in the sport is highlighted, definitely not tear them or their team down because it's not us or we didn't get any credit. I hope everyone in the sport learns from this and realizes that some of the reactions in the name of highlighting the team concept actually tore it down quite a bit.

Haven't all cheerleading shows really just followed one person or a small group? No one cared that Jersey Cheer only talked to a small set of girls (and they had a whole hour for the show). Cheerleader Nation followed the Dunbar coach and her daughter mostly. No one was mad that the other girls on the team were left out.

Heck, this spans to other shows not even about cheerleading. You can't follow everyone, nor would you want to hear from everyone.

kingston said:

I think somewhere planning this idea it went awry. I think (and people should be over it) it is good discussing why it upset people now.

Maddie is a victim of poor planning and execution. The more I think about it the more I realize it was kinda 'doomed' for a bit of cheer World failure. Whoever was the cheer consultant on this one (and I doubt it was CEA because you wouldn't consult the subject you are doing a documentary on) dropped the ball.

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Why do you think they dropped the ball? I think the point they set out to make was accomplished and they conveyed the message they wanted to.

imrichhowboutu said:

Haven't all cheerleading shows really just followed one person or a small group? No one cared that Jersey Cheer only talked to a small set of girls (and they had a whole hour for the show). Cheerleader Nation followed the Dunbar coach and her daughter mostly. No one was mad that the other girls on the team were left out.

Heck, this spans to other shows not even about cheerleading. You can't follow everyone, nor would you want to hear from everyone.

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I was just picturing watching a show about xyz and having every person there tell their story and how instead of sticking with the show I would turn it off in 5-10 mins ... even your non reality TV shows are like that - you have a specific character that you get "invested" in that makes you continue to want to watch/learn about what happened. Imagine Harry Potter if they gave everyone @ Hogwarts input - torture and BORING. You don't need 10-100 people telling you the same thing that 10-100 people already told you about just in their own words.
Did you see Snape sneak around the corner? I think he's up to something!
Snape just snuck around the corner what is he doing?
I think Snape is doing something he shouldn't he just snuck around the corner!
OMG! Did you see Snape?!

cheerKT said:

Why do you think they dropped the ball? I think the point they set out to make was accomplished and they conveyed the message they wanted to.

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Unintended consequences. I don't think the tweets and Facebook and Fierce Board messages and... shall we say disgruntled ness... was intended or expected. The way it was cut and shown obviously did not have the positive impact in the community. Why? Because cheer is a team sport. Do I think Maddie believes she is 90% of the team and everyone else is 10%? Heck no. That is silly. But it was cut that way and woven that way.

cheerKT said:

Why do you think they dropped the ball? I think the point they set out to make was accomplished and they conveyed the message they wanted to.

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It is extremely important to understand 'why' everyone reacted the way they did so a similar situation does not happen in the future. Saying everyone reacted poorly and should know better will not change how people handle themselves in the future. Knowing the community and how everyone takes news is very important.

A quote I always try to remember when dealing with people and not not expect more out of them than they are: A cobra will bite you whether you call it cobra or Mr. Cobra.

kingston said:

Unintended consequences. I don't think the tweets and Facebook and Fierce Board messages and... shall we say disgruntled ness... was intended or expected. The way it was cut and shown obviously did not have the positive impact in the community. Why? Because cheer is a team sport. Do I think Maddie believes she is 90% of the team and everyone else is 10%? Heck no. That is silly. But it was cut that way and woven that way.

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Agreed - Except for that fact that anyone in the industry should KNOW in their heart of hearts it is a team sport and not be so small minded. That is the fault of the community itself.

When you come out of a Care and Prevention meeting (last night and three more nights this week) for high school cheerleading and you say your involvement has mostly been in ALL STAR cheer and they say "what is all star, is that like club cheer" and you say no, it's ALL STAR and they say ohhhhhhhhhhh like you have three heads ... then you'll understand how important it is to get the real deal with the real cheerlebrities on CNN.

mommy2mygirls said:

Agreed - Except for that fact that anyone in the industry should KNOW in their heart of hearts it is a team sport and not be so small minded. That is the fault of the community itself.

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This goes along with the argument that no one should jump up and be excited when they announce 2nd place and a team has known they won. We can say it is the fault of the community, but I haven't seen any remorse from the ones in the community who have reacted negatively (this is a generality obviously). So scolding OR self realization that someone over reacted isn't happening. If the same situation were to happen again do you think people would react the same way?