All-Star Got A Phone Call From Disney Regarding Worlds

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I mean US teams. In IO5 even though they moved on to Sat, to see teams with front walkovers and cartwheels move to Finals is something I personally hated, that isnt really finals when you've eliminated teams just because they are from the US.

Seeing some of the best teams in the country be done on Fri was really sad to me. Its not the same as competing on Sat. I've accepted the way its done so I dont want this this drag on. Im just saying for me, I would not be opposed to not going to Worlds at all for the final comp of the season. I'd rather go somewhere else and get real placements.

i agree with the whole hating the fact that just because the teams are from another country they moved on to finals... it needs to be the best of the best/ top so many scores that move on because my team who finished 5th in the US with a score of 243 DIDNT move on when every other countrys team(besides canada) had lower scores than us both days // we could have potentially got 3rd on day 3 if our team moved on instead of teams from other countries that had no chance of making it to the top 3 .
 
Correct me if this has already been discussed, but can Worlds not "sell out?" For instance, there are only so many tickets for the Ohio State vs. Michigan game and after they're all sold, they're gone. Why do they continue to sell tickets when the venue is past capacity? Even though it would suck for people who want to come just to watch, if there was a set number of tickets wouldn't the problem disappear? They could offer a certain number of tickets to gym owners/coaches and parents of worlds athletes first since they are guardians of the athletes. After that, they could go on sale to the public.

This to me just seems like the most fair and common way to handle the situation since it is how it is done in practically every other sporting event or show.
The answer is No, and Money.

Your comparison isn't fair, as Ohio Stadium and the Big House are two of the biggest college stadiums in the country. But really, you could still pick two smaller teams and it still wouldn't be the same. The spectator to competitor ratio is MUCH different than a college football game. If you took the approx 100,000 seats available divided by the roughtly 250 players total, that comes out to 400 ppl per athlete. That's a whole lot of family members and then some that WON'T be left outside a locked door.
 
You and 10,000 other people wanting to sit in 4,000 seats....

And people know this is how it works before they go...

My husband, daughter, and her friend went. They had no problems getting inside the Milk House. They got there early, and sat there all day Sunday. Saturday, they started out in the Josten and then moved over to the Milk House. They just drove over from Tampa for the weekend, none of our teams from our gyms were performing. Oh and he drove over the first day the tickets were sold at the box office (24th I believe) so he didn't have to stand in line for tickets on the crowded weekend.
 
#thatawkardmoment when his athlete doesn't even cheer at World Cup anymore.

He actually often has valid points to contribute as he has been around for years!

You however, are probably one of those that would eliminated if we re-elited the world championship. Am I right?

#TAMW you say that in the rudest way possible..

I never said he didn't have valid points. Regardless of the program he does or doesn't cheer for I stand by what I said. And he "looks" at the cheer world through the eyes of a big name athlete. It's just a different perspective from what I have. No shade.

That depends on a whole lot of different circumstances. For example, does my jacked up knee heal in time to compete?
If you must know, I hope to be on Platinum Athletics next year (though I am in no way a spokesperson for their program), so I guess thatd be all up to your opinion of that team..

Regardless of *My* team and *Your sons(?)* team, I stand by what I said.
Worlds isnt worlds with only the Big Names attending. That would be the majors.
 
but more often than not people and mainly parents only want to sit in front for the daughter/sons team and dont really care about the other teams..so they have to pay more to basically see one team?
Yes. This is the way the world works! I'm so tired of this "I have to be up front to see my child"/"I deserve it more" mentality! If my child was competing in the Olympics I'd have to buy a ticket (unless a corporate sponsor "donated" one to me-which most of the times happens). That ticket would be for a seat in the arena. It wouldn't guarantee that if my child was running in the 100m that I would have a seat at the finish line....just that I was in the stadium. If I wanted a specific seat, I'd have to buy that specific seat. My nephew plays a DI college sport. We went to see him play in the semi finals of the NCAA tournament last year. We (along with my brother and his wife) bought a block of tickets together at one end of the field. My nephew is a defender, so we got up close views of him playing for half of the game-but the other half of the game he was on the other end of the field. That's life!
 
The answer is No, and Money.

Your comparison isn't fair, as Ohio Stadium and the Big House are two of the biggest college stadiums in the country. But really, you could still pick two smaller teams and it still wouldn't be the same. The spectator to competitor ratio is MUCH different than a college football game. If you took the approx 100,000 seats available divided by the roughtly 250 players total, that comes out to 400 ppl per athlete. That's a whole lot of family members and then some that WON'T be left outside a locked door.

I'm not really sure why the ratio matters here. The comparison is irrelevant. I was just thinking of something that sells out and when tickets are gone, they are gone. They do not continue letting people into the stadium. If worlds was the same and had 5,000, or whatever the appropriate amonts of tickets per seat, people wouldn't be standing outside the Milkhouse. I am not sure why the number of seats per athletes makes a difference here.

There are only so many seats, just like a 20 oz. water bottle holds 20 oz. and no more. Disney can hold a specific number of spectators and could even include additional tickets if there was standing room available. I realize money is a factor, but it's a hot ticket and should be treated as such. Not everyone and their mother can come to Worlds unless you're a VIP (coach, gym owner, parent, athlete) or they move to a larger venue.
 
I'm not really sure why the ratio matters here. The comparison is irrelevant. I was just thinking of something that sells out and when tickets are gone, they are gone. They do not continue letting people into the stadium. If worlds was the same and had 5,000, or whatever the appropriate amonts of tickets per seat, people wouldn't be standing outside the Milkhouse. I am not sure why the number of seats per athletes makes a difference here.

There are only so many seats, just like a 20 oz. water bottle holds 20 oz. and no more. Disney can hold a specific number of spectators and could even include additional tickets if there was standing room available. I realize money is a factor, but it's a hot ticket and should be treated as such. Not everyone and their mother can come to Worlds unless you're a VIP (coach, gym owner, parent, athlete) or they move to a larger venue.

Football games don't have to worry about how many football players want to sit in the stands to watch the game. That's part of the problem - USASF could sell the exact number of tickets for each venue and still end up with an overcrowding problem because, as it stands, there is no way to track the number of athletes who will go into the venues to watch.
 
I think they should number down the bids, but not because of the "too crowded" reason. I get that teams go just for experience, because that's a big part why we (an international team) go. But it's a different situation for US teams, you guys have NCA, Cheersport etc for experience. Not exactly what the thread was about though... Sorry.

If you compare Olympics to cheerleading, shouldn't it be compared to ICU Worlds? I think it's more similar.
 
I'm not really sure why the ratio matters here. The comparison is irrelevant. I was just thinking of something that sells out and when tickets are gone, they are gone. They do not continue letting people into the stadium. If worlds was the same and had 5,000, or whatever the appropriate amonts of tickets per seat, people wouldn't be standing outside the Milkhouse. I am not sure why the number of seats per athletes makes a difference here.
If the comparison is irrelevant, than why did you make it? As I stated, the problem is not overcrowding, that is just a symptom. The problem is putting on an event in too small a venue. The ratio matters, because if you were to take into account every competitor at Worlds you couldn't even allot them 2 tickets each for parents to come watch them. Your example may be the "most fair and common way", but it doesn't make much sense to do. Make it more apples to apples and place that game in a stadium that seats 400 ppl. What kind of business sense does that make?

Not everyone and their mother can come to Worlds unless you're a VIP (coach, gym owner, parent, athlete) or they move to a larger venue.
Ding Ding Ding!!!! Which is why anything else is just attempting at relieving a problem not fixing it.
 
Yes. This is the way the world works! I'm so tired of this "I have to be up front to see my child"/"I deserve it more" mentality! If my child was competing in the Olympics I'd have to buy a ticket (unless a corporate sponsor "donated" one to me-which most of the times happens). That ticket would be for a seat in the arena. It wouldn't guarantee that if my child was running in the 100m that I would have a seat at the finish line....just that I was in the stadium. If I wanted a specific seat, I'd have to buy that specific seat. My nephew plays a DI college sport. We went to see him play in the semi finals of the NCAA tournament last year. We (along with my brother and his wife) bought a block of tickets together at one end of the field. My nephew is a defender, so we got up close views of him playing for half of the game-but the other half of the game he was on the other end of the field. That's life!
Sorry but I have to respectively disagree. All we wanted is a seat...any seat. No special treatment, just a seat. And by the way, we would have liked to see the other teams in the division, just like all the other lucky people that got the chance. But we were ushered in and promptly ushered out. I would gladly pay additional $ next year for a guaranteed seat.
 
I'm not really sure why the ratio matters here. The comparison is irrelevant. I was just thinking of something that sells out and when tickets are gone, they are gone. They do not continue letting people into the stadium. If worlds was the same and had 5,000, or whatever the appropriate amonts of tickets per seat, people wouldn't be standing outside the Milkhouse. I am not sure why the number of seats per athletes makes a difference here.

There are only so many seats, just like a 20 oz. water bottle holds 20 oz. and no more. Disney can hold a specific number of spectators and could even include additional tickets if there was standing room available. I realize money is a factor, but it's a hot ticket and should be treated as such. Not everyone and their mother can come to Worlds unless you're a VIP (coach, gym owner, parent, athlete) or they move to a larger venue.
Amen! Maybe the answer is those that you have described as VIPs get a guaranteed seat in the MH. Then the rest of the seats are first come, first serve (like a concert) and then cheaper tickets are offered for viewing at the baseball field. Just a thought.
 
Sorry but I have to respectively disagree. All we wanted is a seat...any seat. No special treatment, just a seat. And by the way, we would have liked to see the other teams in the division, just like all the other lucky people that got the chance. But we were ushered in and promptly ushered out. I would gladly pay additional $ next year for a guaranteed seat.

You disagree? It's not up for agreement, it's a statement of how most major sporting events work.
 
You disagree? It's not up for agreement, it's a statement of how most major sporting events work.
What I disagree with is your statement "I have to be up front to see my child"/"I deserve it more" mentality". Not your statement regarding the operation of other major sporting events.
 
What I disagree with is your statement "I have to be up front to see my child"/"I deserve it more" mentality". Not your statement regarding the operation of other major sporting events.

So you're disagreeing with the fact that I said that I'm sick of seeing that mentality? That means that you aren't sick of it? Because I know for a fact that it's prevalent. My husband coaches a high school boys sport, and my 4 sons all participate in that sport. We see it there. Hubs and I are both teachers. We see it there. I see it in cheer and in gymnastics (where I coach and judge). This sense of entitlement is sweeping our nation and it's a very real problem.
 
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