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Question:

Is being Vegan a choice or a 'disease' (Sorry to make it sound negative, I don't mean a literal disease, Im just at a loss of correct words right now). I only know one Vegan and it was by choice.

Also, if your a Vegan, you can't wear leather shoes?

Sorry to sound so uneducated, but I really don't know much about Vegan. I obviously like my meat.
From what I know-
The majority of vegans who I have met are vegans by choice. However, if you go a while without eating meat (so even if you're just a vegetarian/pescetarian), your stomach loses it's ability to digest meat as well, which can therefore give you stomach pain (and kinda makes you not want to eat it which puts you on a cycle). I know there's probably some specific scientific mumbo-jumbo about it- but many of my friends who have been veggie/vegan for a while and came back to meat were VERY careful about the reintroduction into their diet. Hurts like hell, I'm told.

Some do it just for general health reasons. Some do it out of the unethical treatment of animals so prevalent in this country (I had a friend become vegan- the info you can find on it would make you weep. I eat meat, but I wish I could fiscally ensure all animals products I consume or use would be obtained as painlessly as possible). Some do it for both. Yes, we are designed to eat meat, but not quite in the quantities that most people consume..Some people (like me) are practically veggies due to meat costs. That ish is EXPENSIVE- particularly in NYC.

I think the negative stereotype comes from the passion that many people have about it- that sort of 'crunchy-granola greenie' concept. I don't think I've ever met one vegan like that..although I'm sure some people find my passion for cheer to be a stereotype. Regardless of whether the lifestyle is for you- it's worth looking into. The food industry relies on our ignorance of the current practices done- particularly in an attempt to get food processed cheaply.
 
Question:

Is being Vegan a choice or a 'disease' (Sorry to make it sound negative, I don't mean a literal disease, Im just at a loss of correct words right now). I only know one Vegan and it was by choice.

Also, if your a Vegan, you can't wear leather shoes?

Sorry to sound so uneducated, but I really don't know much about Vegan. I obviously like my meat.
What do you mean by disease? What would be an example of that?

I think almost everyone is by choice. But there's plenty of reasons. Some do it for animal rights, some for the environment and some just don't like the taste of meat.

I'm a pescetarian by choice. This is the first time I've heard the word "pescetarian" haha. I always say I'm a vegetarian.
 
Question:

Is being Vegan a choice or a 'disease' (Sorry to make it sound negative, I don't mean a literal disease, Im just at a loss of correct words right now). I only know one Vegan and it was by choice.

Also, if your a Vegan, you can't wear leather shoes?

Sorry to sound so uneducated, but I really don't know much about Vegan. I obviously like my meat.

Kristen answered it well, it's usually a moral choice, though some people with dietary restrictions will make that choice for that reason. Vegetarian means you don't eat meat, being vegan means you don't eat meat and try to avoid using anything with animal byproducts (including eggs and even jello, oddly enough). I don't know if they all take it as far as not wearing leather or using products with glues made from animal byproducts, but I would assume that's the case.


From what I know-
The majority of vegans who I have met are vegans by choice. However, if you go a while without eating meat (so even if you're just a vegetarian/pescetarian), your stomach loses it's ability to digest meat as well, which can therefore give you stomach pain (and kinda makes you not want to eat it which puts you on a cycle). I know there's probably some specific scientific mumbo-jumbo about it- but many of my friends who have been veggie/vegan for a while and came back to meat were VERY careful about the reintroduction into their diet. Hurts like hell, I'm told.

I went to Mexico on Spring Break in college with my roommate who was a vegetarian. We had meal tickets for very specific options at certain restaurants, so she slowly had to introduce chicken back into her diet before we went so she would be able to eat down there.
 
What do you mean by disease? What would be an example of that?

I think almost everyone is by choice. But there's plenty of reasons. Some do it for animal rights, some for the environment and some just don't like the taste of meat.

I'm a pescetarian by choice. This is the first time I've heard the word "pescetarian" haha. I always say I'm a vegetarian.
I think he means that a person is either:
*Allergic to meat/animal products
*Can't digest meat products (stomach doesn't have the proper enzymes to break it down)
*Something else is PHYSICALLY 'wrong' inside them that makes ingesting meat/animal products a very bad idea.
 
Random but If you live in California, Prop 37 is going to put the labels on food stating if it was genetically modified.
But not on meat or certain vegetables or if it comes from out of state. In typical cali fashion it's half done. I have lived here all my life and my kid are third generation Californians so I know of what I speak.
 
I'm board....so here's my two cents....JMO
Vegetarians do not eat meat for whatever reasons: religious, desiease (some type of indigestion, etc.), treatment of animals, health....
Vegans do partake of anything animal, some may be for religious reasons, but mostly by choice due to treatment of animals/animal curelity....
Health, yes I completely understand. Religious reasons, I understand.....My issue with all of these reasons is that it is not possible to be a true vegan in today's society. If you are living in a 3rd world country where there are no modern convenience, maybe.
Plastics, rubber, soap, shampoo, glue, paper, paint, die, food coloring, the list can go on forever because most things we use today, computers, phones, etc. the all have some part of an animal in it somewhere.
Ironically most vegetables......yes I said vegetables, especially organic are fertalized using animal dong (poop/waste).
So while I applaud anyone for trying to be as true to their choices as possible, please do not get carried away, it is not possible.
Shoes: no leather is a good place to start, but the lace, sole, innersole, rubber, glue, are also all made of animal byproducts.
Heck, even products that may not have any animal byproducts, have been tested on animals, so it is very difficult to avoid......
To the individual above...somewhere.....that mentioned that we, humans are designed to digest meat....NOT TRUE.....at least not if you believe in creation. If you believe in creation, remember, that it was not until after the floor, where all vegetarian was destroyed, that humans started eating meat....

Rambling....so I will end with this. If this is your belief, do all you can to follow it truely, even if it means it is not possible to avoid animal byproducts all together, keep looking for the alternative......
 
I just had a very interesting thought in my head:
If people say we didn't start eating meat until after the flood, then how do we have the body functions capable of handling it? (Teeth, digestive capabilities)..you can't say evolution, because evolution completely disproves creationism. CIRCLE OF THOUGHT..

Anyway- since veganism has become such a popular thing, it's a LOT easier to get things cruelty-free/animal product free. I think that while most vegans understand that they can't go back and change the past about whether or not a product or singular item was once tested on animals, they can choose from NOW ON to use cruelty-free items and things not tested on animals. It's a whole niche market. I wouldn't doubt that soon many products will be made cruelty free/animal product free.

If you like puppies and want to get involved, there's a whole project about adopting dogs that were once used as animal testers. Beagles are typically used because they are trusting of humans and very docile..there's a video of them being rescued and the first time they've ever stepped on grass. I think I cried for 20 minutes..
 
Hodiestoe we have a few veggie and vegan families, even a lot of vegetarians won't wear leather shoes. We found the zephz butterfly lite was acceptable for them all and you can get then from living cheer.
kristenthegreat you are very right about the quality of meat in Ireland though. My mum used to tell me how healthy it was for me when I refused to eat it :)
 
Hodiestoe we have a few veggie and vegan families, even a lot of vegetarians won't wear leather shoes. We found the zephz butterfly lite was acceptable for them all and you can get then from living cheer.
kristenthegreat you are very right about the quality of meat in Ireland though. My mum used to tell me how healthy it was for me when I refused to eat it :)
I was hiking in Kenmare and looking at all the sheep on the mountain. Part of me was sad to know I was probably eating their brother for dinner, but some other part was like 'No wonder they're so tasty!'
 
I was hiking in Kenmare and looking at all the sheep on the mountain. Part of me was sad to know I was probably eating their brother for dinner, but some other part was like 'No wonder they're so tasty!'
Well all this rain has to be good for something :cow:
 
Contributing to this hot mess of a thread, wish I found it sooner. My unwarranted 2 cents:

I'm a vegetarian. Well, almost an ovo-vegetarian (don't eat meat, but I do eat eggs, and the only dairy I eat is Greek yogurt :rolleyes:).
My reasoning originally had to do with convenience (away at school + my fear of strange-looking-dining-hall-cooked-meats = little/no meat for me) and over time has come revolve more around the agribusiness (you know, what all those Food Inc. type documentaries are about). If possible, I also try to steer clear of things like leather, fur, animal-tested stuff, unsettling use of animal byproducts, etc. because they just don't sit right with me.

The board is the only place I've actively outed myself as a vegetarian. I most definitely do not try to shove my ideas down people's throats or try to 'convert' them. I don't even talk about it in my everyday life. I only tell people if I feel they need to know.... I don't care if other people eat meat. Not eating meat is my choice. Just like eating meat is your choice. It's not my place to judge.
But just like some people don't enjoy preachy vegetarians/vegans, I don't quite enjoy the barrage of questions I often get 'omg how can u not eat steak?' 'but no cheezburgerz!?' 'wut about proteen?' 'omg but dont u miss chickin fingerz?' once I tell someone.

Sure, maybe someday I'd like to be a full-fledged vegan, but I'm content for now. It's hard enough being a vegetarian at the moment... but I expected it to be.

ETA: Okay a little more than 2 cents...
 
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Contributing to this hot mess of a thread, wish I found it sooner. My unwarranted 2 cents:

I'm a vegetarian. Well, almost an ovo-vegetarian (don't eat meat, but I do eat eggs, and the only dairy I eat is Greek yogurt :rolleyes:).
My reasoning originally had to do with convenience (away at school + my fear of strange-looking-dining-hall-cooked-meats = little/no meat for me) and over time has come revolve more around the agribusiness (you know, what all those Food Inc. type documentaries are about). If possible, I also try to steer clear of things like leather, fur, animal-tested stuff, unsettling use of animal byproducts, etc. because they just don't sit right with me.

The board is the only place I've actively outed myself as a vegetarian. I most definitely do not try to shove my ideas down people's throats or try to 'convert' them. I don't even talk about it in my everyday life. I only tell people if I feel they need to know.... I don't care if other people eat meat. Not eating meat is my choice. Just like eating meat is your choice. It's not my place to judge.
But just like some people don't enjoy preachy vegetarians/vegans, I don't quite enjoy the barrage of questions I often get 'omg how can u not eat steak?' 'but no cheezburgerz!?' 'wut about proteen?' 'omg but dont u miss chickin fingerz?' once I tell someone.

Sure, maybe someday I'd like to be a full-fledged vegan, but I'm content for now. It's hard enough being a vegetarian at the moment... but I expected it to be.

ETA: Okay a little more than 2 cents...
We are the same person :fro:
 
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