All-Star Trinity And Cheerupdates

cheeeeer93 said:

I think BUTBT is on Trinity's schedule.. even sooner than American Grand! And I believe that will be a head to head battle with GA Med. Coed as well

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cheeeeer93 said:

I think BUTBT is on Trinity's schedule.. even sooner than American Grand! And I believe that will be a head to head battle with GA Med. Coed as well

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canz said:

I disagree a little although I wouldn't go so far as to say it ruined the sport, it is damaging publicity- My reasoning is that the general public are very good about "throwing in everyone in the same box" so to speak and making generalisations. Bad or negative publicity can have a ripple effect for others in that industry. By the same token, it can have a positive effect for competitors but in my experience this is generally only brief.

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cheerfan27 said:

Who besides us in the "cheer" world even cares or knows about this? no one...they may have seen the recent investigation on the news but it didn't mean anything to them.

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TheUltimateFan said:

All the inane documentation and threats aside, this practice seems to have become like an eBay for athletes, where whoever offers the highest bid wins. Which has another whole set of implications.

But...can someone who has some knowledge of the laws surrounding amateur vs. pro athletes answer this; Isn't accepting free tuition, free uniforms and/or free room and board considered to be a form of payment, just like an outright cash, home or car offer, just on a smaller scale?

I'm not asking this as though I am assuming the pro vs. amateur status applies here. It's irrelevant. I just think that law may give us a point of reference for how 'gifts' are viewed from a legal perspective.

If that's true, does the future for allstar frighten anyone besides me? Someone has to pay for this. And it's going to be the parents of all the other cheerleaders, I guess.

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debbie said:

Girls of cheer have been paying extra to give the boys a free ride forever (some that dont even have talent). I'm glad clubs are offering the talented girls a free ride also now. I still don't see anything wrong with this. By the time a girl has reached the best of level 5 she (and her parents) have pd their dues!

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TheUltimateFan said:

All the inane documentation and threats aside, this practice seems to have become like an eBay for athletes, where whoever offers the highest bid wins. Which has another whole set of implications.

But...can someone who has some knowledge of the laws surrounding amateur vs. pro athletes answer this; Isn't accepting free tuition, free uniforms and/or free room and board considered to be a form of payment, just like an outright cash, home or car offer, just on a smaller scale?

I'm not asking this as though I am assuming the pro vs. amateur status applies here. It's irrelevant. I just think that law may give us a point of reference for how 'gifts' are viewed from a legal perspective.

If that's true, does the future for allstar frighten anyone besides me? Someone has to pay for this. And it's going to be the parents of all the other cheerleaders, I guess.

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yojaehs said:

Your kidding right? I'm hoping you just haven't taken the time to read through this entire thread. There is nothing wrong with a gym choosing to scholarship an athlete (male or female) but to blatantly recruit with "scholarships" + promises of being paid etc. is WRONG. I'm against scholarships in general (my personal opinion, I just think it's bad business, but in extenuating circumstances I can understand it). My belief is that if a scholarship is awarded it should be returned by cleaning the gym, working classes/camps etc. But to e-mail an athlete or athletes family and promise scholarships + payment is wrong. Build your program the right way, this is against everything I personally believe in and to make it boys vs girls I don't think you are fully understanding the magnitude of this situation.

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debbie said:

Most subjects I agree with you; however, on this one we will have to agree to disagree . I just believe if a kid has a talent a gym needs its smart business to offer them a free ride to come to their gym. Obviously I'm in the minority.

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lovecheering said:

I was just browsing throught Trinity's tryout packet. It says that Gianni has to approve any major hair changes. Say what??? Is this common at other gyms, because I've never heard of a child having to get permission from their allstar coach to change their hair?

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yojaehs said:

I respect you and I see what your saying I just think this situation is the extreme and I don't agree with it.

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specialtpass said:

Over the years I have seen both girls and boys given scholarships at gyms. There is a big difference from what I've seen in dedication, attendance and performance when there is some type of work (stunting and tumbling classes, cleaning) required in exchange for tuition. When you scholarship them to come without earning it every other paying child and parent on the team becomes a hostage to that child. The gym owner sends the message that we NEED this child. I would not want my cp on a "designer" team. I want her on a team made up of talented kids drawn in by a gyms reputation and skills willing to try out and compete for the spot.

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faking4lettersx said:

do you have a link to this? I cant find their website anywhere

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