All-Star "cheering All The Way To The Er" Article
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xtremeteal4life
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- Oct 10, 2010
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Do you know what the word means besides the UD definition?
- Nov 18, 2010
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Haha, I was also thinking that...he actually used the real word in correct context.
xtremeteal4life
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He did indeed....
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As a transitive or intransitive verb: Ratchet-To cause to increase or decrease by increments
- Nov 18, 2010
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That's exactly what this is--he used correct attribution ONE time, and it was only a statistic from TWO years ago! My 13 year old niece who typ3z lik dis could have written a more professional, well-attributed piece.
It absolutely blows my mind that there are journalism students like me, who are busting our butts to be good, competent writers, and we're told horror stories about finding jobs--when people who write stories like this are the ones holding the jobs that WE should be getting.
- Oct 8, 2010
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That's terrifying!
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1st - he is referring to high school cheer. IHSAA stands for Idaho High School Athletic Association. He is NOT referring to the All-star community.
2nd - he is correct. Up until this year the competitive high school offering was managed by a small clique of high school coaches, not an organization. This year the IHSAA took over the competitions because of the money it can make, not for offering safety.
Quote from the IHSAA rep is below (with my notes) after discussion with them on their approach to better safety and certification of coaches to limit injuries. My daughter suffered a severe concussion week before districts and is done cheering. And might I note that in 10 years of all-star cheer, not one concussion. Another girl at a different school suffered a concussion in November and has yet to return due to complications, another girl from same school different gym broke both ankles in the middle of a competition and they dragged her off the floor continued to compete and even when not completing any of the pyramid sequence, they still got first.
No school in Idaho is required to have mats. They are expensive and can't always be afforded. Nobody monitors the teams to ensure they are practicing on proper surfaces. One team in the eastern part of Idaho performs on illegal surfaces consistently. They happen to be one the best High School teams in the state, but it's wrong.
This writer is not wrong. He has not stated anything that, as a strong All-Star cheer mom, I don't completely agree with. All-star is better set up and prepared to manage the elite skills performed. These high schools in Idaho are not.
Response from Idaho High School Athletic Association:
Our member schools have asked us to manage competitive cheer, and we will continue to do so. There were 1800 participants at last weekend’s State Dance and Cheer Championships, one of our largest state tournaments, and I believe that number will grow in future years.
(only interested in the money)
If you are unhappy with the coaches at your own school, I would encourage you to share your concerns with the school’s administration. (I shared my concerns with you the IHSAA as you are the governing body trying to bring safety, but you let the $75 certification dimwit teach my kid) There are many, many cheerleaders who want to compete that wouldn’t have access to an all-star cheer program (or the financial means to participate outside of the high school team) in our rural areas. Creating opportunities for our high school students is a tenant of our association. That being said, individual schools have to discretion to eliminate competition for their cheer squads and only have sideline cheer. The patrons of each school, along with the administration, would direct that decision.
Their tenant is to provide opportunity not safety!! :banghead:
2nd - he is correct. Up until this year the competitive high school offering was managed by a small clique of high school coaches, not an organization. This year the IHSAA took over the competitions because of the money it can make, not for offering safety.
Quote from the IHSAA rep is below (with my notes) after discussion with them on their approach to better safety and certification of coaches to limit injuries. My daughter suffered a severe concussion week before districts and is done cheering. And might I note that in 10 years of all-star cheer, not one concussion. Another girl at a different school suffered a concussion in November and has yet to return due to complications, another girl from same school different gym broke both ankles in the middle of a competition and they dragged her off the floor continued to compete and even when not completing any of the pyramid sequence, they still got first.
No school in Idaho is required to have mats. They are expensive and can't always be afforded. Nobody monitors the teams to ensure they are practicing on proper surfaces. One team in the eastern part of Idaho performs on illegal surfaces consistently. They happen to be one the best High School teams in the state, but it's wrong.
This writer is not wrong. He has not stated anything that, as a strong All-Star cheer mom, I don't completely agree with. All-star is better set up and prepared to manage the elite skills performed. These high schools in Idaho are not.
Response from Idaho High School Athletic Association:
Our member schools have asked us to manage competitive cheer, and we will continue to do so. There were 1800 participants at last weekend’s State Dance and Cheer Championships, one of our largest state tournaments, and I believe that number will grow in future years.
(only interested in the money)If you are unhappy with the coaches at your own school, I would encourage you to share your concerns with the school’s administration.
(I shared my concerns with you the IHSAA as you are the governing body trying to bring safety, but you let the $75 certification dimwit teach my kid) There are many, many cheerleaders who want to compete that wouldn’t have access to an all-star cheer program (or the financial means to participate outside of the high school team) in our rural areas. Creating opportunities for our high school students is a tenant of our association. That being said, individual schools have to discretion to eliminate competition for their cheer squads and only have sideline cheer. The patrons of each school, along with the administration, would direct that decision.Their tenant is to provide opportunity not safety!! :banghead:
- Nov 18, 2010
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1st - he is referring to high school cheer. IHSAA stands for Idaho High School Athletic Association. He is NOT referring to the All-star community.
2nd - he is correct. Up until this year the competitive high school offering was managed by a small clique of high school coaches, not an organization. This year the IHSAA took over the competitions because of the money it can make, not for offering safety.
Quote from the IHSAA rep is below (with my notes) after discussion with them on their approach to better safety and certification of coaches to limit injuries. My daughter suffered a severe concussion week before districts and is done cheering. And might I note that in 10 years of all-star cheer, not one concussion. Another girl at a different school suffered a concussion in November and has yet to return due to complications, another girl from same school different gym broke both ankles in the middle of a competition and they dragged her off the floor continued to compete and even when not completing any of the pyramid sequence, they still got first.
No school in Idaho is required to have mats. They are expensive and can't always be afforded. Nobody monitors the teams to ensure they are practicing on proper surfaces. One team in the eastern part of Idaho performs on illegal surfaces consistently. They happen to be one the best High School teams in the state, but it's wrong.
This writer is not wrong. He has not stated anything that, as a strong All-Star cheer mom, I don't completely agree with. All-star is better set up and prepared to manage the elite skills performed. These high schools in Idaho are not.
Response from Idaho High School Athletic Association:
Our member schools have asked us to manage competitive cheer, and we will continue to do so. There were 1800 participants at last weekend’s State Dance and Cheer Championships, one of our largest state tournaments, and I believe that number will grow in future years.
If you are unhappy with the coaches at your own school, I would encourage you to share your concerns with the school’s administration.
Their tenant is to provide opportunity not safety!! :banghead:
I'm not sure if you're defending the article, the author, or neither...but when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter if he's telling us rightfully that the sky is blue, or blowing smoke up our booty and telling us it's purple. It's the way he wrote it. These pieces, when done well, can bring the right attention to the right people and make things change. But pieces like this are awful representations of the sport--no matter what level it's portraying--and can only make those outside of our community look at us in a more negative light because it comes across like we're a bunch of invalids at our own sport and can't prevent injuries because no one knows how to teach it correctly.
- Jan 5, 2011
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OK I am only basing this on the pic of the article posted here and the comments I've seen because the link doesn't have the article anymore. I know this is going to be unpopular, but it's 4am and I'm up...so here goes.
I have to say I don't understand what has everyone so mad. Yes, he's a jerk. Yes, he's playing into a lot of stereotypes. But the article is about high school cheer, which is, in many states, a disaster. (Apparently Idaho is one of them) It would have been nice if his article was aimed at getting better regulation, but it is what it is.
I guess my main thoughts when I read this thread are: if you don't want people to write things like this, stop talking about all the injuries you get as a way to justify why cheerleading should be a sport. I see at least 4 or 5 things every weekend on Facebook that say something like "And they say cheer isn't a sport???" and then they go on to describe some horrific injury (usually followed by praise for continuing on after the injury occurs, blood/concussion/torn-or-broken-whatever and all. Other sports don't do that. They stop the game, handle the injury, and then continue). It's not doing cheer any favors when we're the ones telling people how crazy dangerous it is.
If you want cheer to be seen as a legitimate sport by people, stop making it sound ridiculous. The "outside world" does not see continuing on with a concussion as a good thing - they see it as dangerous and stupid. Most people don't know the difference between allstar and school cheer. All they know is what you show them.
I'm not saying I love this article or this guy - he's obviously a complete @$$hat.. Just that I'm not surprised that this is how people see cheer when this is the image we created.
I have to say I don't understand what has everyone so mad. Yes, he's a jerk. Yes, he's playing into a lot of stereotypes. But the article is about high school cheer, which is, in many states, a disaster. (Apparently Idaho is one of them) It would have been nice if his article was aimed at getting better regulation, but it is what it is.
I guess my main thoughts when I read this thread are: if you don't want people to write things like this, stop talking about all the injuries you get as a way to justify why cheerleading should be a sport. I see at least 4 or 5 things every weekend on Facebook that say something like "And they say cheer isn't a sport???" and then they go on to describe some horrific injury (usually followed by praise for continuing on after the injury occurs, blood/concussion/torn-or-broken-whatever and all. Other sports don't do that. They stop the game, handle the injury, and then continue). It's not doing cheer any favors when we're the ones telling people how crazy dangerous it is.
If you want cheer to be seen as a legitimate sport by people, stop making it sound ridiculous. The "outside world" does not see continuing on with a concussion as a good thing - they see it as dangerous and stupid. Most people don't know the difference between allstar and school cheer. All they know is what you show them.
I'm not saying I love this article or this guy - he's obviously a complete @$$hat.. Just that I'm not surprised that this is how people see cheer when this is the image we created.
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The thing I have found fascinating about cheer is the ability to mobilize the entire community. When a cause is discovered that the community readily agrees on the ability of cheer to get the message out via Fierce Board and Twitter is rather impressive. I did not include Facebook because it doesn't seem to be used that way and moves a LOT slower.
Fierce Board has a concentrated audience and has the ability to keep everyone on the same page. Twitter has a faster spread but the clarity of information and the discussion is rather disconnected. But as I have followed and watched and seen how the two interweave and help each other out it creates this highly unique environment. The overall ability to organize and spread the message is just quite amazing.
On the reverse when it comes to complicated issues this is where the mob fails. If the discussion is past A = B, and is instead A = B = C = D, then the mob doesn't mobilize.
Fierce Board has a concentrated audience and has the ability to keep everyone on the same page. Twitter has a faster spread but the clarity of information and the discussion is rather disconnected. But as I have followed and watched and seen how the two interweave and help each other out it creates this highly unique environment. The overall ability to organize and spread the message is just quite amazing.
On the reverse when it comes to complicated issues this is where the mob fails. If the discussion is past A = B, and is instead A = B = C = D, then the mob doesn't mobilize.
CAmamakat
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Unfortunately there are morons like this all over! It's sad actually! I will be sending a fact based, unemotional email to him along with some information he will be able to send in his apology email to our sport. 
You mess with one of us, you mess with us ALL!
You mess with one of us, you mess with us ALL!
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Rather than spamming this guy's inbox with "OMG YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT" someone needs to sit down and put together a rational rebuttal. Be honest about the injuries, but counter that with all of the reason why cheer should be recognized as a sport, all of the pros of it rather than why it should be cut completely.
I really liked a lot of @ACEDAD's tweets on the subject from last night. The sport has evolved, traditional sideline cheer leading is sexist in a lot of ways.
I really liked a lot of @ACEDAD's tweets on the subject from last night. The sport has evolved, traditional sideline cheer leading is sexist in a lot of ways.
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