All-Star Reach The Beach Worlds Bids [4/5 - 4/7] - Ocean City, Md

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ny cheer got an AL in MAG.
Kudos to them for following USASF rules about allowing a team who was disqualified from one division for having an illegal athlete at Worlds to get a bid in another division. Not so sure about adhering the EP's 50% rule but that's not for me to say, only Epic knows the truth behind that one.

I was thinking about how much easier it seems to be to get a bid at the end of the season rather than the beginning; just pick a comp that is giving out 6 at large bids, look to see who is going who already has one and voila! if the numbers work in your favor, you're pretty much good to go to Day 1.

What if at-large bids were not handed down? Your team goes to a comp, they get an at-large bid, great, you're going to Worlds. You already have one? More power to you, it wasn't a fluke. Didn't get one but your score ranked 14th and the 13 teams in front of you already have one? Too bad so sad. Try again at another comp and try to improve before that one.
 
Kudos to them for following USASF rules about allowing a team who was disqualified from one division for having an illegal athlete at Worlds to get a bid in another division. Not so sure about adhering the EP's 50% rule but that's not for me to say, only Epic knows the truth behind that one.

I was thinking about how much easier it seems to be to get a bid at the end of the season rather than the beginning; just pick a comp that is giving out 6 at large bids, look to see who is going who already has one and voila! if the numbers work in your favor, you're pretty much good to go to Day 1.

What if at-large bids were not handed down? Your team goes to a comp, they get an at-large bid, great, you're going to Worlds. You already have one? More power to you, it wasn't a fluke. Didn't get one but your score ranked 14th and the 13 teams in front of you already have one? Too bad so sad. Try again at another comp and try to improve before that one.


I thought that was amazing; good for them.
 
How did fire and ice medium senior not get a paid bid? Saw a video of them and they looked great both days.

How was the scoring at this competiton? Some of the placings i saw seem a little off. My gym is considering going to this comp next year. Trying to see if the scoring is fair and accurate.
 
How did fire and ice medium senior not get a paid bid? Saw a video of them and they looked great both days.

How was the scoring at this competiton? Some of the placings i saw seem a little off. My gym is considering going to this comp next year. Trying to see if the scoring is fair and accurate.

They used the worlds scoresheet. So it is extremely difficult to compare division to division. International weights stunting so much more than senior (as everyone knows). International also weights overall choregoraphy with more total points than senior does as well. Based on Saturdays scores, either of the teams that had paid bids could have had an additional 20 points in deductions, which is more than 6 stunt falls or tumbling busts and 2 bobbles or touch downs and still walked away with a paid bid.

Also, the judges didn't seem to know how to use the scoresheets. Which is the biggest issue of all. When you have judges who are using a scoresheet that has no rubric and haven't judged on it previously, there will be issues.

I will use a very specific example of something that was inconsistent in synchronized tumbling.
Team A - 13 team members
  • 7 athletes go. 4 athletes throw roundoff handspring fulls, and 3 throw layouts
  • 2 athletes do front walkover through to full
  • 2 athletes do front walkover through to full
Team B- 22 athletes
  • 3 athletes go. 2 throw roundoff handspring full, 1 throws a layout
  • 2 athletes throw roundoff handspring tuck.
Team A scored a 1.5/10 on day 1 in sync and a 1.0/10 day 2 in sync
Team B scored a 2.5/10 both days in sync.

To me, there is no way to justify that. Team A threw majority in-level sync passes (8/13). Team B threw barely any (2/22) in-level sync passes.

Another thing I heard from this competition. A coach was told by the score rep that their pyramid was amazing and there was almost nothing they could do to improve it, yet scored only just over 50% of the possible difficulty points.
 
They used the worlds scoresheet. So it is extremely difficult to compare division to division. International weights stunting so much more than senior (as everyone knows). International also weights overall choregoraphy with more total points than senior does as well. Based on Saturdays scores, either of the teams that had paid bids could have had an additional 20 points in deductions, which is more than 6 stunt falls or tumbling busts and 2 bobbles or touch downs and still walked away with a paid bid.

I feel like by using that, they should have allotted one paid to international and one to senior. Because clearly, a senior team would basically have to move mountains on the floor to score like an international team.
 
How did fire and ice medium senior not get a paid bid? Saw a video of them and they looked great both days.

How was the scoring at this competiton? Some of the placings i saw seem a little off. My gym is considering going to this comp next year. Trying to see if the scoring is fair and accurate.
The teams that got the bids were amazing and deserved them.
 
I feel like by using that, they should have allotted one paid to international and one to senior. Because clearly, a senior team would basically have to move mountains on the floor to score like an international team.

as a mom of a competing international daughter (AL bid, not one of the paid teams) I was happy they let us IO teams even have the opportunity to get a paid. I don"t think any other comp did that. congrats to Spirit and SE
 
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