All-Star Only Seniors Can Expose Midriff???

Just-a-Mom · Aug 18, 2012

Coach Troy said:
I cannot see the picture but by the discriptions I don't think I want too.

You don't.

But I will tell you that the program it's from has for sure got to be one of the ones that sparked these new guidelines. :eek:

(No I don't know this as a fact, I'm just speculating. But I can't imagine that they didn't catch someone's attention with those)

12stepCheermom · Aug 18, 2012

cheercurl said:
Oh my goodness....and guess what they are pink and black. #justsayin'

you're my hero.

yourfavoritebackspot · Aug 21, 2012

ShallowPoms said:
This makes no sense!!!
So would girls, say crossing on a youth 3 and senior 3, have to buy two different tops?

This is why I feel only high school age should be on a senior team, they should address that first before any uniform rules. But..that will never happen and small gyms would complain.

xtremeteal4life · Aug 25, 2012

TheUltimateFan said:
I absolutely agree with you. And I deliberately chose a controversial example for exactly this reason. But don't you see, in the Catholic School you could CHOOSE not to pray. Wouldn't that have approach have worked for the public schools too, instead of taking something away from the majority in the interests of the minority who did not want to pray? Pass a law that enforced the rights of individuals to not participate without prejudice instead of forbidding the prayer itself? Do you see the analogy here? Make everyone stop wearing crop tops instead of dealing with the issue of a few abusers.

And if that is controversial, I am probably going to get stoned for this one....I was alive in the 50s, a teen and twenty-something in the radical 60s and 70s, watched the decline of family and the rise of crime in the 80s, 90s and on. And I see the erosion of the moral values in our country that started at the same time the government starting invading personal values and your right to personal choice.

Again, I am not trying to align crop tops with religion. What we are trying to say is that as long as you let people take away your right to choose, the less choice you can expect to have. And the more they will continue to take.

ummm....definitely not the same. Private Christian school is different than public school..We'd have to legally recognize every religion in school if this were the case, not have people choose whether or not to pray to "God". Why not let the Muslim's have public prayer at school (since at least one of their required prayers of the day is at school), or Hindus pray to their gods, Buddhists w/their shrines, Wiccans and their "spells", Scientologists and their e-meters...Voodoo, the list goes on..but I think I made my point. Not trying to pick...just pointing out why you probably don't want religion in school (not the obvious that it's illegal within the given initial context)

So by your analogy though, you've inadvertently created MORE choices, not less.

codycheerbabex · Aug 25, 2012

cheercurl said:
Oh my goodness....and guess what they are pink and black. #justsayin'

Is this by any chance the uniform everyone was complaining about, for what seemed like forever, in the new uniforms thread last season?

GkGirl · Sep 21, 2012

Glad that the Austin Cheer Company could get that full coverage uniform. Thanks to GK for designing it FIRST for F5!

Jadie_Loves_Cheer · Apr 21, 2013

ASCheerMan said:
The cover up portion of the image policy was an idea we took from the dance culture. Dance is often mentioned when cheer uniform issues arise. It isn't part of an actual policy, but the dance culture is to cover up w/a t-shirt immediately following a performance. They don't run around a venue in scantily clad outfits. And I agree in theory that 'if they can compete in it, they should be able to wear it around a competition.' But the 'icky level' of a 35 year old man watching a team of 20 athletes in a skimpy uniform perform an athletic routine from 50 feet away, where you are separated by the spectators, a stage, and lights is much lower than the icky level of that same 35 year old man standing 3 inches behind one of those athletes in line at the concession stand.

I keep hearing people refer to their children or their gym as 'being punished' for the poor decisions of other programs. We could ALL stand to dial back some things and if the reward/benefit you receive from all star cheer was truly that you got to run around in a half top, then you missed the entire value you were receiving. This isn't punishment at all. And 5 years from now, these emotional outcries of how unfair it is that 13 year old girls are toning down their make up and revealing less skin will be remembered as not nearly the monumental change we anticipated. It will quickly fade away in memory and all star cheer will CONTINUE to be a lot of fun.

Hadn't thought about "the icky level". You have a very valid point! Some reasonable guidelines are definitely needed. I still think if crop tops are okay for one age group they should be legal (is that the right word? Lol) for all age groups! Gyms should be able to choose for themselves what's age appropriate.

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hawkeye87 · Apr 21, 2013

This is my opinion and I hope I don't offend someone with this. As a former athlete, I think it is so sad that they are trying to tell people what they are allowed to wear. However as a new mom, even though I have a 2 month old little boy not a little girl, I understand why they are trying to put these rules in place. It seems like every season you hear about sex offenders being at competitions. And even though it is not the athletes fault that these sex offenders are at there and it should not be their responsibility to control these peoples urges, I would not want to risk my daughter being the subject of those urges. The truth is that in a perfect these athletes really should be allowed to wear whatever they want whenever they want without any risk at all but we don't live in a perfect world. I believe that by creating this rules they are simply trying to protect the athletes from being objectified by these people however it really is going to be difficult to enforce these rules and I really believe that when they create these rules, they should also publicize the reason behind it and how they plan on enforcing it. That way people really understand their reasoning.

Lissylou · Apr 22, 2013

I remember one organization trying to ban half tops for everyone (I don't know if it was approved in the end) because they thought it did/could lead to eating disorders developing in girls involved with cheer. And also (on a different point) I think we need to be reminded; we already get a heap of critizism for being immodest and wearing skimpy uniforms! USASF is probably just trying to remove that negative image which is stopping people from doing cheer because they just think its about wearing skimpy clothes and shaking your booty.

Also, hawkeye87 makes an excellent point. If a full top could help prevent these terrible things happening then I am all for it!

CheerBank · Apr 22, 2013

Dh came to cp's last competition and saw our half year teams in sublimated tanks and shorts that complemented our full year teams' warmups. He was never a fan of the crop top (which is what cp wears on full year) and thought this was an athletic and sharp looking alternative for a sport striving to be recognized as such. Of course, he would do away with the makeup as well if given the choice.

FLTD<3 · Apr 22, 2013

I do agree that their should be regulations regarding uniforms as the sport has progressed the uniforms have as well lower and lower... my gym is a Christian organization and we do have a half tops with open shoulders and our skirts are worn at our belly buttons "high" they still look amazing. A uniform doesn't have to bare all in order to get recognized to perform better I know teams like to be "flashy" which isn't a bad thing but I think uniforms have taken a turn for the worse. Charlotte allstars is very well known gym and has always had a full top which should show it isn't always a bad thing to have a modest uniform and still look and be good!

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Valvalmom · Apr 23, 2013

Personally, I love seeing the cover ups. It's not punishment, it's modesty. Just because someone is on his high school swim team doesn't mean he should be running around the school in his speedos! After the video taping incident, I see nothing wrong with taking a simple step to protect our girls from a creep like that guy!

Valvalmom · Apr 23, 2013

hawkeye87 said:
This is my opinion and I hope I don't offend someone with this. As a former athlete, I think it is so sad that they are trying to tell people what they are allowed to wear. However as a new mom, even though I have a 2 month old little boy not a little girl, I understand why they are trying to put these rules in place. It seems like every season you hear about sex offenders being at competitions. And even though it is not the athletes fault that these sex offenders are at there and it should not be their responsibility to control these peoples urges, I would not want to risk my daughter being the subject of those urges. The truth is that in a perfect these athletes really should be allowed to wear whatever they want whenever they want without any risk at all but we don't live in a perfect world. I believe that by creating this rules they are simply trying to protect the athletes from being objectified by these people however it really is going to be difficult to enforce these rules and I really believe that when they create these rules, they should also publicize the reason behind it and how they plan on enforcing it. That way people really understand their reasoning.

Congratulations on your baby boy!!!

hawkeye87 · Apr 23, 2013

Valvalmom said:
Congratulations on your baby boy!!!

Thank you so much!

SassyRachael · Jul 24, 2013

I think this rule is incredibly dumb. It's the athletes stomach.....people really need to stop over sexualizing female body parts....like their legs, arms, shoulders, stomachs, etc. It's a stomach, that's where food goes to be digested, that's where their umbilical cord was attached to when they were in the womb. There's nothing inappropriate about it. I think it should be the decision of the coaches of the teams not the USASF.
We shouldn't teach young girls to be ashamed of their bodies by covering them up & making even their tummies taboo.
It's not the USASF's place to say what the athletes can & can't wear, that's the place of the parents & the coaches.
At my gym we have full tops as that reflects the value of our coaches & parents but I don't think there is anything wrong with having half tops, they're super cute & I've never personally, seen a distastefully revealing uniform (though I've certainly seen distasteful lol).

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