All-Star All-star Routines Becoming Too Compulsory?

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Mar 29, 2012
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This was posted on facebook by Jamie Parrish and it brings up some really good points about how all-star routines are getting too jam packed with skills because the rubic requires them and judges are no longer able to enjoy the creativity of the coaches and choreographers.


"So in sitting down and doing my double “super-safe” check on the World’s rubric for this weekend, I noticed something that I had never noticed after all these years…Les Stella is a genius.
Now I know all you haters out there in Cheerworld are going to see the above comment as a “pre-world’s” suck-up. Not so. But accompanied by my recent tryout, and looking at the makeup of our teams –trying to fit them in the highest scoring rubric – it is apparent that we are killing our sport. I’ll explain.
The beauty of the World’s score sheet and rubric system is that it allows judges to sit back, relax, and enjoy a routine. On all of the other rubrics, the judges are not really judging are they? They are COUNTING. COUNTING FULLS. COUNTING TUCKS. COUNTING DOWNWARD INVERSIONS. We have taken the creativity OUT and made our sport one big compulsory routine.
For all of you old timers out there….go back with me…
“tuuuurn the beat around (Top Gun’s Spinning Pyramid) still gives me CHILLS. It would be level 3 now. But boy was it an effective, easy –to-watch visual.
How about “Cupid – draw back your boooow) When shooting stars wowed us with that Level 3 diddy.
Dances like Eric Little’s Beautiful People for GA, or my Fashionista dance for World Cup. It brought the house down, but we don’t even have time to choreograph dance anymore, because the “rubric” is so overwhelming to a 2:30 second routine, that we can’t fit it all in.
Now. What awe inspiring moments can you name in our sport this past year, or 2 years for that matter? Please don’t say…CA Panthers squad doubles, or Kelsey Rules latest pass. I am in awe of that as well. But it’s not a MOMENT in our sport that everyone agrees will go down in history as a moment that gives you chills. A moment that we will never forget. A Victor Rosario “trick” that has never been seen or done. Like the first time he yanked two girls out, then in really fast. Simple, visual, and eye appealing. Level 5? No. Great to watch? Yes.
It’s been a while since I personally had “a moment” like that. Like the first time I saw top gun with those T-O-P G-U-N signs that opened up with his double fulls crossing. That, my friends, was a MOMENT. Sadly, we have “Rubericked” ourselves out of these moments.
Even if my old 42 year old brain thought of something really visually appealing, and crowd pleasing, there is no place to fit it in. I have to do my basket variety, my jump back combination with floor work, my 3 body positions, my high to high, my level 5 dismount, my footwork, my basket variety (even though they are level 3 baskets- shut up, that’s not the point, the point is you MUST do them!!!), my coed unassisted, my all-girl tricky stunt, my twisting flipping pyramid skills, my 3 “pictures’, my dance visuals, my jump entry to 2to fulls, my synchronized tumbling, my group tumbling….Hell, my fingers are about to FALL off and I am just getting started.
Can you imagine having to score all of the above for every single team? That is why I say they are NOT judging our work, but COUNTING our work and LOOKING for mistakes, rather than ENJOYING what we have created for them.
Gone are the days of ANY musicality in cheerleading. Gone are the days where I can take the time to do this cool arabaincirclethingy just because it looked cool. No, we have to fit 47 Eight counts in to a 2:30 routine, and it is getting so compulsory, that I am about to kill myself. What’s worse is that we are NOT using the score sheet well enough to separate the really good teams, form the sort of good teams, from the just good teams. The system is flawed.
Which brings me Full Circle to…
Les Stella is a genius. Think about it. No Rubric. The USASF Championship will crown what? 8 gold medalist this weekend, and judge thousands of teams with NO RUBERICK! I have found choreographing on this worlds score sheet was so much fun. It allowed me to be creative. It allowed me to organize my routine without worrying so much about the “checklist” and if I had an amazing “Victor Rosario” idea, I could fit it in my routine, without having to worry about my downward inversion.
Will the winner come out right? Yes
Will the judges get to enjoy our choreography, and be inspired? Yes
Will they be looking over my choreography, past the beautiful toe touch on the front row, to be policing the back corner for touchdowns? NO
Do you all not see the beauty in all of this?
We have scores of coaches on a USASF score sheet committee working tirelessly to no avail on agreeing on the perfect score sheet.
Well, I say you have it. It’s called the Worlds Score sheet AND IT comes with a perfect rubric – NO Rubric.
Yes, there are ranges. But those ranges are genius in the fact that it WILL separate the best, most elite teams out for their hard skills, and yet still manage to reward teams like mine for creativity when we don’t have 25 doubles. Look at what it is doing to college nationals. In case you did not notice, coed partner stunting has done EXACTLY what Les said it would do. We have GUYS…that can STUNT. I LOVE IT!
Perfect example is South Elite in the Medium Coed last year. When I saw that routine, I got CHILLS. Did they have a million doubles? NO. But it was one of those fun to watch, great stunting, coed feeling awesome routines.
I distinctly remember sitting next to another coach and I said…I think that routine will be in the Top 3. He says to me..”no way, not enough tumbling” I said..”Well it was damn clean, fun to watch, the boys stunted like crazy, and I enjoyed it. I hope it does. And it did. And I agreed.
Imagine that. Being able to sit back and ENJOY a cheer routine. Imagine a coach being able to take his time, and create a routine that suits his team’s best talents, focusing on what his kids are GOOD at; instead of packing in 47 eight counts of a checklist. That’s not choreography, that called a “honey do list.”

I had a kid not tryout yesterday. I loved this kid, and asked her why she chose not to tryout. I called her mom to see if was something we had done at the gym. Her response? Jamie (I’ll call her Mary) Mary has been a level 3 for 2 years, and she just can’t seem to get that layout. She has basically done the exact routine for 2 years now, and really does not want to do the same routine again. She has mastered her ½ up to a one legged stunt. She has her running tuck, and her stand double back handspring. Check. Check.Check.
Is that what we really have come to? A checklist? Well you gym owners out there may want to go visit your friends that have gymnastics gyms and see how the compulsory system killed their sport. No really. Ask them.
You will find that gymnastics did the same thing, and the numbers are down 30% over the last 3 years.
I want Donnie Richards to sit back at that table, take a sip of his coffee, and ENJOY the routine I put out there for him. I don’t want him counting. I want him to FEEL the musicality. I want him to ENJOY the visuals. And I want to have enough TIME to let my kids DANCE their way to the finish line, because we are good at dance. And that should count for something.
Please join me at the USASF Worlds, and spread the word that the score sheet committee should adjust the worlds score sheet to fit within each level, and back off of this overly technical system that is killing the creativity, and longevity of the sport.
Thank you for your consideration.
I hope that you will ALL come to Doral for our NACCC meeting to discuss this, and the many other topics that we need to discuss as an industry.
Jamie"
 
A lot has come out of Jamie's mouth this year that I don't agree with...but this....?

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Preach.
 
As a noob, I'm surprised that I'm about to give your post a heck yeah! I know our J3 coach is a master at maxing out the rubric. A few weeks ago, I had a Bring It On moment. We went out, put up a great routine. A few teams later, another J3 team comes on, and I'd say all of the opening, jump, stunt, pryo sequences were 90% the same. Hey, not everyone can rock the 2 man ;)

But yeah, I can see what you're saying. Now that we're almost at the end of the season, I haven't been wowed by any level 3 routine lately. The dance is all that's separating one from the other anymore.
 
As a noob, I'm surprised that I'm about to give your post a heck yeah! I know our J3 coach is a master at maxing out the rubric. A few weeks ago, I had a Bring It On moment. We went out, put up a great routine. A few teams later, another J3 team comes on, and I'd say all of the opening, jump, stunt, pryo sequences were 90% the same. Hey, not everyone can rock the 2 man ;)

But yeah, I can see what you're saying. Now that we're almost at the end of the season, I haven't been wowed by any level 3 routine lately. The dance is all that's separating one from the other anymore.


Take it from a judge, levels 2 and 3 are just awful when it comes to the same thing.. over and over and over and over and over... honestly everything looks the same!
 
I will be the one that says... I don't agree. While I do believe SOME creativity has been lost, I think it's gyms that struggle to maintain their difficulty/numbers (mostly in tumbling) that are crying foul. I remember watching Top Gun in years past and while I LOVED their creativity, it drove me CRAZY that most of their girls on large coed couldn't even triple toe back, let alone throw a full. I LOVE the fact that gyms are now forced to actually put true level 5 kids on their teams. I would much rather watch compulsory style routines and know that the team that was the cleanest with the MOST DIFFICULTY won. I am so completely over watching teams win just because of creativity. If I want to be entertained, I can go watch the circus. Cheer is a sport. In sports, the BEST team wins, not the team that was the most fun to watch.

Ok, I'm ducking for cover now!!
 
I will be the one that says... I don't agree. While I do believe SOME creativity has been lost, I think it's gyms that struggle to maintain their difficulty/numbers (mostly in tumbling) that are crying foul. I remember watching Top Gun in years past and while I LOVED their creativity, it drove me CRAZY that most of their girls on large coed couldn't even triple toe back, let alone throw a full. I LOVE the fact that gyms are now forced to actually put true level 5 kids on their teams. I would much rather watch compulsory style routines and know that the team that was the cleanest with the MOST DIFFICULTY won. I am so completely over watching teams win just because of creativity. If I want to be entertained, I can go watch the circus. Cheer is a sport. In sports, the BEST team wins, not the team that was the most fun to watch.

Ok, I'm ducking for cover now!!

Bless your soul :D


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The teams that have true level 5 athletes with all the necessary tumbling and stunting skills to max out the scoresheet AND still put out an entertaining, creative and crowd and judge pleasing routine are the ones that should be winning.
 
I totally agree with this!!! I miss cheer from 2008-2010 so much!
It was so fun to watch. Clean routines with a little bit of difficulty. And a looot of creativity.


Not to mention how everyone focus how big poof and ponytail will be and how they will look like a Barbie doll. You didn't see this a few years ago.
 
I will be the one that says... I don't agree. While I do believe SOME creativity has been lost, I think it's gyms that struggle to maintain their difficulty/numbers (mostly in tumbling) that are crying foul. I remember watching Top Gun in years past and while I LOVED their creativity, it drove me CRAZY that most of their girls on large coed couldn't even triple toe back, let alone throw a full. I LOVE the fact that gyms are now forced to actually put true level 5 kids on their teams. I would much rather watch compulsory style routines and know that the team that was the cleanest with the MOST DIFFICULTY won. I am so completely over watching teams win just because of creativity. If I want to be entertained, I can go watch the circus. Cheer is a sport. In sports, the BEST team wins, not the team that was the most fun to watch.

Ok, I'm ducking for cover now!!

I absolutely agree with you. I love seeing the sheer amount of skill being put on the floor these days and the necessity for level 5 skills in level 5, however I agree with Jamie somewhat in that the demand for so many things has removed much of the enjoyability (not a word but w.e) of this sport. Look at Stars 2009. It's a flawless example of the routines that I wish were present in the sport today. One stunt sequence, it didn't look quite as difficult as Senior Elite's, but it hit the scoresheet well, it was enjoyable, and it was clean. Of 36 girls, 33 did standing tumbling, 32 of those twisting, 12 of those doubled. They had 32 girls do roundoff fulls and doubles all at the same time. In the first minute of the routine, I've seen enough skill to compete in 2013, however they still had an entertaining, choreography packed, and amazing routine.
 
Agreed! Coming from a theater background prior to my starting all star cheer, I don't love to cheer for being an athlete. I do, but the thing I love more is PERFORMING. Putting on a show is the heart of any great team. It's not all about the full team doubles or perfect toe back tuck. It's the beautiful choreography that Jamie and other amazing cheer visionaries have put out on the floor, not only to impress the judges with skill, but to entertain the whole arena with electrifying visual effects and original ideas.
 
Here's an unpopular opinion. This is what I like about figure skating. A shorter compulsory routine on day one that is all about skill counting and execution and the artistic routine day two where you can be creative. A cheer team that could hit two different routines back to back would be amazing and just think how "fun" finals would be after you only moved forward the best, must skilled, compulsory teams from day 1 and no longer had to concern yourself with "counting skills"

If you didn't have a team full if true 5s you'd never make day two anyway so you could watch a field if equally skilled teams battle each other over creativity.

I would love that.


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I'm having trouble figuring out his core argument. Worlds has had the same basic no-rubric scoresheet for a long time. World Cup could still do a "Fashionista" caliber dance and Top Gun could still do some crazy new everyone-thought-was-illegal-but-somehow-isn't skill and they would both get heavily rewarded for it. Is he saying that there isn't time in a routine to do those things? They would take the same amount of time that a current dance or pyramid would.

Also, last time I checked, the same people were choreographing those routines that were ten years ago. Those two programs are still as competitive as ever.
 
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