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- Dec 4, 2009
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OK, for small senior in the at large bids the average score is 197.2. The standard deviation is 22. If we ignore one team that was an extreme outlier (Niagara) the average is 198.1 and the standard deviation is 21.2. Niagara's score was so low it has to be looked at as an aberration.
Ignoring the outlier the average score of a team that goes AFTER a team that is above the standard deviation is 206.3, and the standard deviation is 12. Meaning its pretty consistently higher.
I think a team competing before you that does well will improve your score by 4 or 5 points.
Ignoring the low outlier the score teams competing after a team that competes a low scoring team outside the standard deviation the average is 203.8 and a standard deviation of 26.1.
I do not think a team competing before you that scores low helps your score at all.
Ignoring the outlier the average score of a team that goes AFTER a team that is above the standard deviation is 206.3, and the standard deviation is 12. Meaning its pretty consistently higher.
I think a team competing before you that does well will improve your score by 4 or 5 points.
Ignoring the low outlier the score teams competing after a team that competes a low scoring team outside the standard deviation the average is 203.8 and a standard deviation of 26.1.
I do not think a team competing before you that scores low helps your score at all.
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L5cheermom
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That's counterintuitive. I would have thought it would be just the opposite. It seems logical that following a strong team would accentuate a team's flaws and that performing right after a low performing team would create the illusion of a stronger routine. Hum.
L5cheermom
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It is certainly intriguing. After establishing the what it is helpful to investigate the why. Perhaps some of the energy of the high performing routine leaches out onto the subsequent team. Is the higher score representative of the performance of the team or the perception of that performance by the judges? Does following a well performing team encourage the athletes while following a lower performing team makes the athletes more complacent? Inquiring minds want to know.
- Dec 14, 2009
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No King, this is TRULY AWESOME MAN!! I have always felt this way, but you are logistically proving it. Keep them coming man, I love it!!
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So how can they fix this for upcoming years? And are they willing to admit there was a problem and try to change things?
What if they did smaller groups, say like 20 teams and they take top 5 from each group of 20? Or something along that line, where basically the same judges aren't sitting there watching 40 teams. I also feel like they probably did hold back a little on scores if they knew a big name gym was coming up. Have to wonder if it would have been the same effect if Smoed would have gone very early in the order? Either way, it clearly happened, hope they can figure out a way to fix it.
What if they did smaller groups, say like 20 teams and they take top 5 from each group of 20? Or something along that line, where basically the same judges aren't sitting there watching 40 teams. I also feel like they probably did hold back a little on scores if they knew a big name gym was coming up. Have to wonder if it would have been the same effect if Smoed would have gone very early in the order? Either way, it clearly happened, hope they can figure out a way to fix it.
- Mar 23, 2010
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Did the deductions that were given also come out of their raw score. Meaning, were teams hit more than once? Looking at some of these scoresheets, not only are there huge deductions, but raw scores seem very low (I concentrated on "name" programs and teams I know had great routines). Could this possibility skew these charts?
gymcatmomx2
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I have always wondered how the scoring would change if cheer comps were like dance comps where you wouldn't know the name of the team or gym until awards. The unis would have no team or gym designation on them and would only be identified by a number and division level.
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