All-Star Ga Vs. Rays - Again

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Unfortunately cheer gyms are now like products sold in the store. Each one offers different perks and flaws and at the end of the day it's up to the consumer to decide what is best for them. Should he have singled out an athlete on Twitter... No. Her tweet was truthful and respectful. But at the end of the day if someone feels one gym or the other is a better fit, why is it our business to get involved? Both gyms have talent. You can't deny that. Let athletes and families decide.


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As a college coach I look for skills, attitude, and potential.

I couldn't give a flip about what they did before hand if they offer me those three things.


(This is not to say someone who's cheered sidelines or won Worlds is bad, but more whoever requires such inane things needs to get priorities straight).


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BlueCat said:
That must be new, because we have had many athletes cheer for the University of Texas (including several I believe who did not cheer for their school team) and I have never heard this. This is not typical - in fact, that is the first and only school that I have run across with this type of policy. I would be curious to see if anyone ever actually gets turned down because of this.
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Looks like it is new this year.

(Cheer Tryout Information) UT Spirit Program

**New Requirement**
All prospective cheerleader candidates must be a current member of their school's spirit group (ie. cheer squad, pep squad, etc.). If the candidate is not a current member of the school's spirit group, they can apply for a waiver by providing a letter of reasoning to the Head Coach for approval. Please include this letter in your tryout packet.
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xomckenzieee said:
Unfortunately cheer gyms are now like products sold in the store. Each one offers different perks and flaws and at the end of the day it's up to the consumer to decide what is best for them. Should he have singled out an athlete on Twitter... No. Her tweet was truthful and respectful. But at the end of the day if someone feels one gym or the other is a better fit, why is it our business to get involved? Both gyms have talent. You can't deny that. Let athletes and families decide.


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Because at some point adults (especially) need to stand up and say "this is wrong!" Plus with all of the harassment and bullying that goes on over the internet and the dire consequences that often come with them, it's everyone's responsibility to stand up and try to stop it before it gets out of hand.
 
laughAlittle said:
:cow:

what is the point of this statement? Setting the fire and watching it burn?
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I thought it was to show that not just the GA parents have been rude before. But to me parents from the gym shouldn't be the way that you judge a gym. They aren't the "product" of the gym and no matter what program (high school or all star) you're probably going to run into a rude parent.


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ryann3794 said:
All Im going to say is that I've had SEVERAL unpleasant expriences with Stingray Parents/coaches/athletes.....
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You will get that everywhere. There are parents IN my CP's program I can't stand and that are rude to people they know. I could only imagine how they treat strangers. Fact is not every athlelte, parent or coach is going to give a great impression of the gym they belong to EVERY TIME. We had one of our parents actually Tweet and post to Facebook a complaint to Encore and , in my eys, embarrassed the program. That was just one person and that's all it takes to get a bad reputation.
The issue here is this was THE OWNER, not a parent or a 10 year old cheerleader. An owner who has a high profile program who should frankly know better.
 
It is true that rude parents/cheerleaders are everywhere, but I think it's alot about how gyms handle their parents/cheerleaders "acting out" and the kind of environment they are in when they are in the gym... I've cheered at a total of 4 gyms and on my high school team and I can honestly say that how the parents/cheerleaders act in public is learned in the gym. Like, if they act rude or catty or whatever in their own gym and no one says anything, they are going to continue to act like that in public. On the other hand if that kind of behavior is recognized before it actually goes anywhere they will be more likely to hold themselves together even if they don't want to...

And like the person above me said, this was THE OWNER, and he should know better. I mean of the owner acts like that, isn't that giving an ok to his parents and cheerleader to mouth off on twitter or be rude in person?
 
iCheer4G said:
It is true that rude parents/cheerleaders are everywhere, but I think it's alot about how gyms handle their parents/cheerleaders "acting out" and the kind of environment they are in when they are in the gym... I've cheered at a total of 4 gyms and on my high school team and I can honestly say that how the parents/cheerleaders act in public is learned in the gym. Like, if they act rude or catty or whatever in their own gym and no one says anything, they are going to continue to act like that in public. On the other hand if that kind of behavior is recognized before it actually goes anywhere they will be more likely to hold themselves together even if they don't want to...

And like the person above me said, this was THE OWNER, and he should know better. I mean of the owner acts like that, isn't that giving an ok to his parents and cheerleader to mouth off on twitter or be rude in person?
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You actually think that how people act in public is learned at their gym???? I'm pretty sure rude people were rude before they ever stepped foot in a cheer gym.


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lovecheering said:
You actually think that how people act in public is learned at their gym???? I'm pretty sure rude people were rude before they ever stepped foot in a cheer gym.


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I didn't mean it that way... I meant that if someone is rude to other parents I'm the gym and get away with it they are going to continue to act that way, where as if they are reprimanded they will be more likely to hold themselves together. Think of it the same as parents who let their kids be rude and have no manners versus parents who don't let their kids get away with talking bad and having a bad attitude.
As for the fact that it was the OWNER of the gym, that isn't TEACHING bad behavior, it's just setting a bad example. I mean, of its ok for the owner to behave badly then it would appear to the parents/cheerleaders that it is ok to behave badly and they would then copy that behavior. It's a psychological fact, you can look it up if you would like.


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iCheer4G said:
I didn't mean it that way... I meant that if someone is rude to other parents I'm the gym and get away with it they are going to continue to act that way, where as if they are reprimanded they will be more likely to hold themselves together. Think of it the same as parents who let their kids be rude and have no manners versus parents who don't let their kids get away with talking bad and having a bad attitude.
As for the fact that it was the OWNER of the gym, that isn't TEACHING bad behavior, it's just setting a bad example. I mean, of its ok for the owner to behave badly then it would appear to the parents/cheerleaders that it is ok to behave badly and they would then copy that behavior. It's a psychological fact, you can look it up if you would like.


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So if the gym owner is a drunk in public, then do we "psychologically" assume the parents will be drunk in public? I don't think you are giving enough credit to adults who have their own ideas and morals.


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lovecheering said:
So if the gym owner is a drunk in public, then do we "psychologically" assume the parents will be drunk in public? I don't think you are giving enough credit to adults who have their own ideas and morals.


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Honey psychologically people tend to copy behavior of people that they feel to be in a position in power. I'm just saying that if an owner goes and shoots his mouth off and personally attacks CHILDREN (mind you he is 40 something years old) it looks like he is ok with that behavior. And if he then tries to tell his parents to not be rude or shoot their mouth off he is creating a double standard.
As for not giving adults credit for having their own ideas, I never said they didn't have their own ideas and would blindly "follow the leader", I just said that they are more likely to think that type of behavior is ok when is is defiantly NOT.


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