All-Star Twerk Ban

HeresAThought said:

Anyway. I blame Miley Cyrus. We need To put a stop to her.

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HeresAThought said:

Anyway. I blame Miley Cyrus. We need To put a stop to her.

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I'll bring the cupcakes.

But seriously- There are degrees of appropriateness. It's one thing for me to twerk in a club or at home with my friends. I'm a 23 year old adult woman who is cognizant of the fact that it makes me look a bit inappropriate (and ridiculous- because twerking is ridiculous). I am an adult. I'm not immortalizing it online for the world to see. I'm not half-naked. Also I don't go to clubs because sweaty people are gross...so yeah. I've also noticed that shimmies in cheer are more of a shoulder-shake and less of a 'draw attention to the girls.' More of a staccato hit like 'BAM'.

For a gym to say- This is inappropriate. You have been warned, you've signed (knowingly and wittingly!) a social media policy which includes such behavior, you're done. I'm totes ok with that, especially as this gym is a Christian-oriented gym. I wish MORE gyms had stricter social media policies. I wish gyms had more appropriate dances. I'd like to take this moment to AGAIN remind everyone that CEA SE, who is not know for their 'fierce' dances, had among the more appropriate dances this year at worlds. And one of the highest dance scores in large senior.

Also- I object to everyone in this thread who referred to twerking as a 'dance.' Spreading your legs in a semi-squat, sticking out your butt and pelvic thrusting repeatedly is NOT a dance. It is a gyration of your bits and bobs.

To me, twerking is very different than shaking your but in a routine. It looks like a deliberate act of throwing your but or (eh hem) other parts in someones face. This is just my opinion but I see a big difference in a heel stretch bow etc to twerking. I'm not loving it but like I said it's my opinion and to each his own. I also have a feeling, though I may be totally wrong, that if a full team twerk were done in competition there would be something said.

kristenthegreat said:

I'll bring the cupcakes.

But seriously- There are degrees of appropriateness. It's one thing for me to twerk in a club or at home with my friends. I'm a 23 year old adult woman who is cognizant of the fact that it makes me look a bit inappropriate (and ridiculous- because twerking is ridiculous). I am an adult. I'm not immortalizing it online for the world to see. I'm not half-naked. Also I don't go to clubs because sweaty people are gross...so yeah. I've also noticed that shimmies in cheer are more of a shoulder-shake and less of a 'draw attention to the girls.' More of a staccato hit like 'BAM'.

For a gym to say- This is inappropriate. You have been warned, you've signed (knowingly and wittingly!) a social media policy which includes such behavior, you're done. I'm totes ok with that, especially as this gym is a Christian-oriented gym. I wish MORE gyms had stricter social media policies. I wish gyms had more appropriate dances. I'd like to take this moment to AGAIN remind everyone that CEA SE, who is not know for their 'fierce' dances, had among the more appropriate dances this year at worlds. And one of the highest dance scores in large senior.

Also- I object to everyone in this thread who referred to twerking as a 'dance.' Spreading your legs in a semi-squat, sticking out your butt and pelvic thrusting repeatedly is NOT a dance. It is a gyration of your bits and bobs.

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this is basically what I was trying to express but you explained it much better lol.

Now, not to say that I support Twerking (however my mother and I do wall twerk quite well I must add), but I think people are mistaking it for what it is. I wasn't started in strip clubs, it's a way of dancing which emphasizes certain features as you're gyrating them. Yes, that's completely inappropriate for young kids. BUT, it's exactly the same as having a dance about "ooh yeah booty booty roll it shake it work it for your momma, your daddy, and your bald headed granny".... It's exactly the same concept, just put a little more politely. If one is inappropriate, so it the other. There is a way of being "fierce" and "diva-like" without looking raunchy and ratchet.

I'm happy to see a gym (any gym) stand up for their reputation. Agree with them join their program if not you have the right to go somewhere else. What does this say about their program? To me it says they encourage respect in all realms.


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kristenthegreat said:

I'll bring the cupcakes.

But seriously- There are degrees of appropriateness. It's one thing for me to twerk in a club or at home with my friends. I'm a 23 year old adult woman who is cognizant of the fact that it makes me look a bit inappropriate (and ridiculous- because twerking is ridiculous). I am an adult. I'm not immortalizing it online for the world to see. I'm not half-naked. Also I don't go to clubs because sweaty people are gross...so yeah. I've also noticed that shimmies in cheer are more of a shoulder-shake and less of a 'draw attention to the girls.' More of a staccato hit like 'BAM'.

For a gym to say- This is inappropriate. You have been warned, you've signed (knowingly and wittingly!) a social media policy which includes such behavior, you're done. I'm totes ok with that, especially as this gym is a Christian-oriented gym. I wish MORE gyms had stricter social media policies. I wish gyms had more appropriate dances. I'd like to take this moment to AGAIN remind everyone that CEA SE, who is not know for their 'fierce' dances, had among the more appropriate dances this year at worlds. And one of the highest dance scores in large senior.

Also- I object to everyone in this thread who referred to twerking as a 'dance.' Spreading your legs in a semi-squat, sticking out your butt and pelvic thrusting repeatedly is NOT a dance. It is a gyration of your bits and bobs.

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Well, considering the definition of dance is a "series of rhythmic and patterned bodily movements usually performed to music" , I think it's kind of ridiculous to say that twerking doesn't fit under that umbrella. There are plenty of people that put a lot of effort into perfecting this style of dance, and it's kind of insulting to say that it's "NOT a dance" because of your personal opinion about its appropriateness. As an actress, would you appreciate it if someone were to say that "walking around on a stage memorizing some lines is NOT art. It's just talking with directed emphasis?"

I totally agree that a gym is within its rights to prohibit behavior like that, but that doesn't make the ban any less arbitrary when the gym permits any of the multitude of other dance moves/body positions that aren't objectively more "wholesome" or "Christian" (whatever that means anyway) than twerking.

David said:

They will not pull up a vine video of you twerking to deny you admittance into grad school, and they shouldn't do it for a job either. What you do in your personal life IS and ALWAYS should be separate from you work life. They are two completely different things.

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njallday said:

if you think they don't look into your character and personal life prior, you're crazy. or maybe don't work anywhere that cares about their reputation. my facebook was always PG with pretty high security, but I was asked about things that they were alarmed with prior to being offered a full time job. work consumes a large part of your life and i am a direct reflection of them. i don't blame them 1 bit.

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njallday is very correct. Companies very much do look at social media accounts and take it into account during the hiring process and they will even monitor it after you've been hired to make sure you are meeting company standards. I even recall reading about people who get paid big bucks to erase someones online footprint to help their employment opportunities.

retiredl5cheer said:

Uh oh... I wasn't sure if I should tell you.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA TELL ME.

Ally13 said:

When I first got Facebook in 8th grade (I think) I was so paranoid that I wouldn't get into college or a job because I thought all my dumb middle school posts would come back to haunt me. So, now I always think before I post and before I graduate college I'm going to make sure my social media accounts are private or I'm just going to delete them all together because I don't really use them all that much.

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i think twerking in general is dumb, it doesnt matter if its miley cyrus or a bunch of underage girls, its trashy. so i dont understand why people are so obsessed with it.

to add to that it'll eventually fade and end up on wikipedia under fad dances, like all these did.

Novelty and fad dances - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

for everyones own enjoyment to recall all the ridiculous dances you did way back when.

ACEDAD said:

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Hahaha, I'll make sure to keep that in mind.

ACEDAD said:

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Don't remind us.

mccracal said:

Well, considering the definition of dance is a "series of rhythmic and patterned bodily movements usually performed to music" , I think it's kind of ridiculous to say that twerking doesn't fit under that umbrella. There are plenty of people that put a lot of effort into perfecting this style of dance, and it's kind of insulting to say that it's "NOT a dance" because of your personal opinion about its appropriateness. As an actress, would you appreciate it if someone were to say that "walking around on a stage memorizing some lines is NOT art. It's just talking with directed emphasis?"

I totally agree that a gym is within its rights to prohibit behavior like that, but that doesn't make the ban any less arbitrary when the gym permits any of the multitude of other dance moves/body positions that aren't objectively more "wholesome" or "Christian" (whatever that means anyway) than twerking.

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....If you put a lot of effort into perfecting this style of 'dance,' you need a hobby. It's not hard. I'll allow for Cat Daddy, I'll allow for various other ridiculous hip-hop/rap-based fad dances, but twerking is where I draw the line in the 'dance' description. It doesn't need to be ballet to be dance (have you SEEN a modern dance, such as Momix?), but if you're insulted because I told you your twerking skills aren't a dance, you need thicker skin. As well as a hobby.

I think the item you're looking to show (seeing as you pulled the 'actress' card), is PERFORMANCE art. Which many people, in fact, do not consider to be art. Or, perhaps, you were looking to tell me that acting is not a career. At which point, you can tell that to the check I just got two days ago for my production of Hamlet.

Also: the gym in question had THIS routine, among the most family-friendly at Worlds (I still curse that gosh-darned scheduling fiasco for the debacle that was Medium Coed). Judging by their dance, I'd say they are FAR from hypocritical for saying such inappropriate moves don't coincide with their philosophy on 'appropriate' behavior.

Cheer Dad said:

Don't remind us.

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I'm trying to pretend it's not real. On BOTH of them (Spitzer and Weiner).