2019-2020 Teams

Discussion in 'Allstar Cheerleading' started by fullinitup, May 3, 2019.

  1. Knowcheering

    Knowcheering I make my own voiceovers

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    USASF and IASF keep creating more-- and separate-- divisions despite shrinking fields, and the competition gets further diluted.

    The Summit is also to blame for smaller Level 6 fields. When you give kids an end-of-the-year trip to Disney as soon as they get to Youth Level 1, they won't have as much incentive to work up toward Level 6. You'll see some kids inspired to continue striving for Worlds success, but others will be content with one or two trips to Florida and then quit.


    Levels 1-3 should feel like introductory levels, but instead they are cutthroat and full of bid-chasing. Competition schedules used to be a healthy mixture of local 1-day comps and a few 2-day comps instead of this continuous bid chasing at 2-day "Nationals" that occurs now from the time a kid is in Youth Level 1. This burns out both kids and parents and kills some of the incentive to ever get to Level 6. And gyms have no choice but to fill their competition schedules with constant 2-day Nationals because this Summit bid-culture has essentially killed off 1-day events and meaningful local competition. I've never seen so many lower level teams compete against themselves at in-state competitions as I do now. Without any real local competitions, a sport is very expensive and time-consuming. The sport in general felt healthier before the Summit.

    Also, the non-tumbling divisions may serve a purpose, but they also create an easy avenue for cheerleaders to get to Worlds without having to obtain many Level 6 skills. It's easier than ever to make it to Worlds, and that's not a good thing.

    So true. The number of little kids claiming to be "cheer models" and ambassadors on Instagram (with accounts run by their delusional stage moms) is staggering. Why ever strive for Worlds success when you can pretend to be famous and important on Instagram at 8 years old?
     
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  2. 123jump4!

    123jump4! I have my own cheer message board

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    No other sport has the "elite" division as 18 or younger. If Open becomes the new "elite" division I think that's kinda healthy for the sport? In soccer for example there are U18 and U21 teams but it's the teams without age limits that are the number 1 teams of course.
     
  3. oncecoolcoachnowmom

    oncecoolcoachnowmom Bestest Newbie '14

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    I think the initial crop of cheer famous kiddos were/are talented athletes who just happened to get some cheer fame because of that and it springboarded to the modeling/brand rep opportunities


    Younger kids coming up I think want to be (example) Varsity/GK/Rebel models/brand reps for social media clout (and other modeling opportunities) more than they want to go to Worlds/be on Worlds teams/win Worlds.

    I also don't think they or their parents realize that cheer brand rep/modeling does not usually lead to actual modeling opportunities. Agencies are not so much looking to sign little kids with cheer modeling experience.
     
  4. UCFKnights07

    UCFKnights07 Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    ive always read and seen that once you win a summit ring its basically the same thing as a worlds ring... and i can kinda see where kids are coming from on that. Maybe not the same prestige of winning a worlds ring and being at the top of the talent pool. But a ring is a ring, just like a jacket is a jacket at any level. So im kinda surprised that the level 5 area of the sport is expanding more and more.
     
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  5. notyourcheermom

    notyourcheermom Slow your roll, Sparkle. National Champion

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    CP's second year on an open AG team.

    4 - 5 kids this season on our team would not have been eligible for a senior Worlds team but are eligible for an open team, 13 turning 14 in year they compete at Worlds. We have one athlete that is over senior age eligibility but she had not planned on being on team this year.
     
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  6. quitthedrama

    quitthedrama I buy my Insta followers

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    I'm only guessing, but since Majors isn't really a sanctioned competition they may be allowing athletes who would normally be considered ineligible to be eligible for this event. I agree about the industry becoming too fractured. There is close to 150 different divisions at Cheersport alone.
     
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  7. CLynn

    CLynn Best Flyer.. on a parent team

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    I'm supportive of open in general and love giving opportunity to those who otherwise would have aged out. Unfortunately instead of being an expansion, what seems to be happening is a cannibalization of s6 and to me that is not positive.
     
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    CLynn Best Flyer.. on a parent team

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    Interesting!
     
  9. icequeen

    icequeen Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Per kids on Coed elite, some are getting cut and the team is switching divisions.
     
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  10. oncecoolcoachnowmom

    oncecoolcoachnowmom Bestest Newbie '14

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    Prediction: They are going Small Open Coed.

    On a macro level across the sport, I also think senior-aged boys are getting harder to come by, hence going Open.

    (They have never been plentiful but I think the bulk of available boy talent is over that age limit.).

    I have nephews in that age range, and cheerleading is not a thing that crosses their radar of fun things to start doing.

    Which is why it is becoming important to pull in boys starting in class, prep, minis.
     
  11. icequeen

    icequeen Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Someone said small coed. I understand your statement completely but I don’t understand cutting boys when they are already so hard to come by.
     
  12. oncecoolcoachnowmom

    oncecoolcoachnowmom Bestest Newbie '14

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    Depends on what you'd mean by cutting. I assumed that cut in all star world generally meant "moved or given option to move to another appropriate team" but I don't immediately know what other coed options CEA has at their main location?