2019 Uca College Nationals

Discussion in 'College Cheerleading, NCATA, & STUNT' started by Kentucky Girl, Oct 23, 2018.

  1. ScottyB

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    Right!!

    wouldn't be the first time they have done so. when they do stuff like that or like last year where they didn't acknowledge or broadcast either partner stunt comp at uca/nca, its all with the goal of Olympics in mind.

    think about how small coed adds another complicated layer to understanding competitive cheer, whereas just having all girl and large coed, it is more black and white (obviously still complicated lol cuz duh cheer)
     
  2. ScottyB

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    i don't think they will do that. varsity wants to have their official College National Championship be as official as it can get when it comes to how schools are divided divisionally. heard big changes coming in this regard in the next few years. will shake up the whole landscape if they follow through
     
  3. retiredl5cheer

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    Ugh. Varsity is the worst.

    Cheer will always be complicated because it's one of the only college sports (maybe the only) with males and females competing on the same team. It will never be less complicated unless they remove males all together.
     
  4. ScottyB

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    Re: no males-
    we are too far gone for that to ever happen imo, too many lawsuits and reverse title 9 chaos would come from that.



    Def will stay complicated unfortunately, too much money is made off the complicated side of things.

    i do appreciate that they are trying to simplify cheer. it needs it sooo badly.

    Ask someone how football or basketball is played, you'll hear something like " its 11 on 11 with alternating sides progressing the ball based on downs" or "its 5 on 5 with a live ball where teams aim to score points or baskets"

    ask that about a subjective sport like diving or figure skating: "divers compete 11 dives of varying difficulty, judged by a panel of 5 judges" or "skater(s) perform a pre-planned routine of varied difficulty for a score from the judges"

    Approach us cheer folk about how competitive cheer works: "well considering the divisions based on genre (all girl or coed) and team size, blah blah over complicated"
     
  5. quitthedrama

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    If they are so upset they should encourage boys to stay in the sport. All star teams are having trouble keeping boys in the sport too, and the focus is nearly completely on tumbling which doesn't translate well to college cheer. Most colleges with coed teams are begging for guys and taking them off the streets with no experience. Having progressions in stunting through the levels for coed teams and having coed stunts count on the score sheet would encourage gyms to teach coed stunting. Currently it seems it's not even a consideration until you get to the worlds level and the stunts required to get into range are too hard for the boys to do.
     
  6. ScottyB

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    many hs cheer guys go cheer in college. i have noticed as you have that a lot of all star guys don't go cheer.

    AS doesn't currently translate well to college in most places. Change of skill work and change of culture overall would help, if that is the direction *they* want to with their industry view of the sport
     
  7. Kentucky Girl

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    Here are the latest results:

    DIVISION I COED

    1. Morehead State University
    2. Eastern Kentucky University
    3. Wichita State University

    DIVISION II COED

    1. University of West Georgia
    2. University of Puerto Rico-Bayamon
    3. Pittsburg State University
    4. University of Puerto Rico-Mayaguez
    5. Northwest Missouri State University

    OPEN COED

    1. Shelton State College
    2. Jones County Community College
    3. Iowa Western Community College
    4. University of Puerto Rico-Carolina
    5. Interamerican Universof Puerto Rico

    SMALL COED DIVISION II

    1. Wilmington University
    2. Drury University
    3. Slippery Rock University
    4. McKendree University
    5. Trine University
    6. Florida Tech University

    OPEN ALL GIRL

    1. The College of New Jersey
    2. Widener University
    3. Southeastern University
    4. Avila University
    5. University of Pikeville
    6. Misericordia University
    7. Suffolk County Community College
    8. Rowan University

    SMALL COED DIVISION I

    1. University of Memphis
    2. Bowling Green State University
    3. Purdue University
    4. Hofstra University
    5. University of Delaware
    6. San Diego State University
    7. University of Alabama-Birmingham
    8. Grand Canyon University
    9. Western Michigan University
    10. James Madison University
    11. Ball State University
    12. Jacksonville State University

    ALL GIRL DIVISION I

    1. University of West Georgia
    2. Morehead State University
    3. Sacramento State
    4. East Tennessee State University
    5. Stony Brook University
    6. University of Southern Indiana
    7. Villanova University
    8. Eastern Kentucky University
    9. Monmouth University
     
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    World cheer exchange has some videos on FB
     
  9. oncecoolcoachnowmom

    oncecoolcoachnowmom Bestest Newbie '14

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    Some results from yesterday:

    Mascot:


    1 The Ohio State University - "Brutus Buckeye"
    2 University of Minnesota - "Goldy Gopher"
    3 University of Colorado Boulder - "Chip"

    D1A GameDay:

    1 UCF
    2 University of Tennessee
    3 University of Cincinnati
    4 University of Mississippi

    D1A All Girl Gameday:

    1 University of Nevada- Las Vegas
    2 University of Minnesota
    3 University of Mississippi

    D1:

    1 Morehead State University
    2 Eastern Kentucky University
    3 Wichita State University

    D1 Small Coed:

    1. Memphis
    2. Bowling Green
    3. Purdue

    D2:

    1 University of West Georgia
    2 University of Puerto Rico - Bayamon
    3 Pittsburg State University

    Open Coed:

    1 Shelton State Community College
    2 Jones County Jr College
    3 Iowa Western Community College

    Open All Girl:

    1 The College of New Jersey
    2 Widener University
    3 Southeastern University
     
  10. oncecoolcoachnowmom

    oncecoolcoachnowmom Bestest Newbie '14

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    I know someone was looking for dance results. I can post if I have a minute. I have not been watching dance (mostly because my ability to comment on dance is basically "oh wow that was pretty or what a pretty costume.")
     
  11. Sterling von Shimmer

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  12. OldskoolKYcheercoach

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    Unfortunately large coed is dying in HS. Eight teams in the whole division last year, I believe.

    If they want to keep guys around, they have to change the image of all star cheer from flamboyant to athletic, and reward true, unassisted coed skills.

    College athletic programs do not want their image to be males with wild, multi-colored hair styles, skin-tight bedazzled uniforms, and pelvic thrusting.

    UCA coed style does not reward coed skills with an assist. Colleges aren’t able to recruit 6th graders like these all star kids are accustomed to lifting.

    So you take an all star boy out of the all star world, and give him an adult female in the 80th percentile for height and weight, take away his assist, and suddenly he’s pretty much useless in a college routine where tumbling is a second thought, and jumps/dance don’t even exist.

    He can go cheer for an NCA program, but IMHO, that’s like going to play in the minor leagues. I mean let’s be honest....NCA nationals has an intermediate level??? WTF is that?
     
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  14. Kentucky Girl

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    But unfortunately, UCA does not have an intermediate division. BTW, did you guys see Kentucky's routine? Absolutely amazing!
     
  15. OldskoolKYcheercoach

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    Thankfully, UCA doesn’t have an intermediate division.

    Why would you have an intermediate division at a collegiate competition?

    NCA nationals is to college cheerleading what the NIT is to college basketball. A second-rate competition that a minority of people really care about.