Artistic Gymnastics

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  1. Nikaa

    Nikaa Slow your roll, Sparkle. Bracket Winner

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    I just checked and it's top 20 gymnast. I had no idea I always tought it's 24.

    Since it's looks like you understand how to qualify explain me this.
    Let's say Gulia Steingruber finish in 10th place in AA and gets bronze in vault finals. And Ilaria Kaeslin finish aa in 15th place.
    Does Gulia gets her spot through AA and Ilaira is out or does she gets her Olympic spot through vault finals and in this case Ilaria also qualify? If the last case is correct does this mean we will find out who qualfied to Olympics after all ef are over?


    So if we for example use last year results top 20 aa would qualify + 2ub spot, 3 fx spots and 3 bb spots. That would make top 28 aa-ers qualify to the Olympics and after (very) fast calculation the 28th place is actually 79th aa place with a score of 47,399.
    (but I expect this score to be higher since it's pre olympic year)

    Ok that's more possible for Laney to qualify. Her aa score at Euro games was 43,732 and at europeans it was 48,399. She just needs to hit and she qualifies.
     
  2. DancerDude0118

    DancerDude0118 Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Hmmm... the qualification system booklet I have says 16:
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    ... but I also remember men and women have different number of AA berths because men have an additional 2 EFs (to cater up to 6 more top 3 EF finishers) compared to the women. So this booklet could be outdated.

    To answer your question:
    Given team Switzerland doesn’t qualify a team to Tokyo 2020, then Steingruber can decline her berth via AA and accept her berth as an event specialist. Which then leaves the Swiss AA berth to Kaeslin. Remember berths for AA are non-nominative, so gymnasts earn the berth for their federations, not themselves.

    And yes, this means that we won’t actually know up to how many gymnasts can qualify via AA until the end of Worlds 2019.

    After Worlds 2019, we will also get to see which gymnasts earn a berth via apparatus world cups, because we would have eliminated everyone else who already qualified via Worlds. For example, Nina Derwael is more than capable of earning herself a berth via AA (given Team Belgium doesn’t qualify a full team), so she gets taken out of the running for the uneven bars specialist spot via the apparatus World Cups, and it goes down to the next eligible gymnast.

    There are still some grey areas in this process, like if Jade Carey accepts the nominative berth and she gets injured before Pan Ams, can team U.S.A. request Carey to decline her berth and then earn the second non-nominate berth?

    ... but yeah, don’t count Madsen out completely yet, really too early to say.
     
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  3. Nikaa

    Nikaa Slow your roll, Sparkle. Bracket Winner

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    Wikipedia says 20 so it must be true (joking of course). Another question...since spots are non nomative is it possible Golgota earns aa spot but Romania (because....Romania) decide to take Iordache instead? So Romania could potentially earn two spots at worlds with Golgota declining her aa spot (which would go to the next Romanian in aa) and her earning spot through ef (if she qualify to any ef ofcourse) which could go directly to her.
     
  4. DancerDude0118

    DancerDude0118 Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Yup. In fact, the very reason why gymnast can qualify via AA at Worlds was because of what happened to Iordache last quad.

    She medalled in the AA finals in 2015, but it didn’t earn her a berth to the Olympics. It was because back then it wasn’t usual for an AA medalist to come from a country that didn’t already qualify a full team to the Olympics.

    Romania has some hope of qualifying a full team though, especially since teams can qualify via continental cups (Euros for Romania).
     
  5. Nikaa

    Nikaa Slow your roll, Sparkle. Bracket Winner

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    Wait they can qualify full team through euros??? What?? Tell me more
     
  6. DancerDude0118

    DancerDude0118 Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Oooops... sorry, they can’t. That’s for rhythmic gymnastics, I accidentally skipped over to the wrong section of the booklet.

    Explains why the screenshot I took above didn’t distinguish between numbers for men and numbers for women. It’s 12 for men and 20 for women.

    Full teams can only qualify via Worlds 2018 & 2019, my bad.
     
  7. SL&AM

    SL&AM Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Ragan has retired from elite and will be going to Oklahoma in the fall.

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  8. Eyes On The Prize

    Eyes On The Prize Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Could've sworn she was 12 like 3 weeks ago... They are growing up too fast.

    I'm really excited to see her in NCAA. I feel like she has the spunk that fits really well into their style.

    And I hope she's resting her ankle. #NoMoreMummifiedAnkles2020
     
  9. DancerDude0118

    DancerDude0118 Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    The tragedy that is Texas Dreams...

    Anyway, U.S. Classics and Pan Am team selection TODAY.

    GET HYPE EVERYONE.
     
  10. j4z0n

    j4z0n I'm an announcer on CBS for Worlds (or should be)

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    I am so rooting for McKayla! she clearly wants this so bad
     
  11. DanglingParticiple

    DanglingParticiple I'm new. Don't Hurt Me

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    I am too! She is soo good.
     
  12. njallday

    njallday Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Shocked Morgi Hurd didn't qualify for AA finals or one single event final at Pan-Ams. (McCusker and Eaker both qualified AA if you weren't watching) Morgan was 4th place AA, so really the two per country rule knocked her out... she was still solid as heck.

    Add in Simone, and I'm not sure about the Olympic team and this new 4 team member format. Obviously is favors all-arounders so she should still be a solid choice . *Anything* can happen in a year (anything hopefully not meaning major injuries) but I wonder if Morgan will end up in Tokyo.
     
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    tuckxandxtwist Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    I hope Riley stays healthy. I love watching her.


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  14. njallday

    njallday Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    I am conflicted with Riley because I love watching her and her Nastia-esque technique, but I just really really really dislike her coach, and if she ends up not making the Olympic team due to an injury, it'll be at the hands of poor coaching.
     
  15. tuckxandxtwist

    tuckxandxtwist Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Laurie isn't training with Maggie anymore, is she? Honestly, I forget she's training until she posts a random beam video on IG every now and then. And I haven't really paid enough attention to know where she is.