Question About What Is On Your Evaluation Sheet For Placement

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  1. NerdMobile

    NerdMobile I shimmy daily

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    In discussion with our BOE, there has been some back and forth regarding what skills can/should be evaluated during tryouts. As the district has insisted cheer leading is viewed as a sport, I contend at the very least, appearance should NOT be a category on the tryout sheet. Additionally, the current stance is that actual cheer skills (particularly those related to stunting) cannot be evaluated because 1. it is too dangerous and 2 there is no way to know what a particular athlete can actually do. I find this a vexing position to take- essentially years of practice/experience are irrelevant. There is a committee meeting upcoming at which I am to present what the "standard" actually is. I've been doing some research, but thought I would ask here as well....
    How does your district organize the sheet and handle evaluations in general? What skills do you assess and how do you evaluate/score those sections?
    Thanks in advance for your feedback.

     
  2. dat.jpp

    dat.jpp Best Flyer.. on a parent team

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    Are there actual schools/colleges that have appearance in there tryout eval?
     
  3. ScottyB

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    We as the coaches ultimately choose our team(s). We hold tryouts with 3rd party judges to allow for athlete skills to be categorically defined and judged to ascertain new members versus old, etc.

    Stunting is a very minimal part of our tryout tbh.

    Attendees are asked to show the following at our tryouts:
    -1 jump
    -optional combo jump or jump/tumble (if they have it and want to try to earn extra points)
    -best standing pass
    -best running pass
    -optional additional pass (if they have advanced tumbling, this is to their advantage)
    -standing tumbling skill (tuck is preferred, bhs allowed if no tuck) - shown 3x to ensure it is a skill and not luck
    -a stunt or sequence (we hold 4 tryout open gym clinics in the lead up to tryouts, where athletes are told and encouraged to work with others to make a stunt that is hit-able for tryouts -- we specifically say we do not want partner stunt routines or craziness, just want to see how you stunt with your role in the group, how you practice it, and how you executed it in the tryout. That part majorly, matters to a coach building their team)
    -fight song
    -overall (which includes appearance - did you care about tryouts? did you follow the instructions about what to wear? do you care how others view you in public? that all matters a lot once you are on the team, so putting a bit of that in tryouts is a nice preview as a coach)

    At Colleges all over this is true and valid. Especially in the south. Having the 'look' for a 100+ million dollar athletics entertainment business is key for some of these schools.
     
  4. retiredl5cheer

    retiredl5cheer Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    High schools, probably not. Colleges, sure. "Athletic appearance" is a thing. If it's not actually on the scoresheet, it's definitely still taken into account.
     
  5. coacha

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    On ours:
    1 Cheer: Scores for Motions, Voice, and Personality Projection
    1 Fight Song: just an overall score
    1 Toe Touch
    1 Running Tumbling (looking for clean, “game” ready tumbling, we tell kids, if it’s sloppy or you are nervous choose something easier. We would rather see a beautiful r/o bhs than a scary pass at tryouts.)

    Stunting scores are created during the week of clinics and is really based on technique and ability to work together, which can be seen in easy stunts. We work preps, extensions and basic libs only so that I don’t have newbies trying to do things that they shouldn’t be for safety reasons.

    I also “score” coachability which is all the other stuff that separates a hard worker from the kid who’s going to be a PITA. Since I judge/score my own tryouts, this is my place where I can bump up that kid who is a great leader or a good team player.
     
  6. AndyT_T

    AndyT_T Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    "Athletic Appearance" is a pretty PC way to describe what they're looking for too since often how "athletic" the person looks isn't truly the important quality.
     
  7. OldskoolKYcheercoach

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    No score sheet, no need
     
  8. retiredl5cheer

    retiredl5cheer Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Very true. Let’s be real, they want you to look good in the uniform.
     
  9. OldskoolKYcheercoach

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    Absolutely take it into consideration, but not necessarily the way it sounds, more like @ScottyB said: “did you follow instructions for what to wear.” I actually had a girl show up for tryouts wearing our rival high school’s T-shirt once. At that point, I have to question not just her ability to rep her school, but her overall intelligence as well.
     
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    LMAO!

    I'd just call it an 'attire' category. I wouldn't want to deal with the heat from parents thinking that someone's kid didn't make it because they aren't thin or blonde.
     
  11. dat.jpp

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    oh wow, I'm stupid I can't
     
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  13. dat.jpp

    dat.jpp Best Flyer.. on a parent team

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    I literally thought it was how you look, like physically.
     
  14. OldskoolKYcheercoach

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    Oh, in some cases, you might be right. I wouldn’t put it past anyone in this business to not choose someone based on physical appearance. I don’t use a scoresheet at all, but I do take into account if they are dressed appropriately.

    There’s also the kid who demands to be a top, but is the biggest kid that’s trying out (in this case she may have a perfectly athletic body fat percentage, just a comparison between her and her potential teammates). If she won’t come off that expectation, she’s not going to be happy, and she gets cut.
     
  15. cheer25mom

    cheer25mom Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    We score appearance, but not based on body type. It is basically, is hair up and out of the face, does their tryout outfit fit properly, do they have appropriate game day makeup ect.