All-Star Score Sheet Help

[cheermom_acnp]

Can anyone help understand these score sheets? The coach keeps telling us our girls routine is competitive but it doesn't seem so when watching other teams. Today she posted the score sheet and it is difficult to make heads or tails of it. How is the max score determined and what is a good difficulty score for stunts and pyramid for a junior 3 team? Our scores seem really low even if the team HIT ZERO. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Keep_Believing]

Technique also count s a lot. The judges want you to hit the routine clean, not just hit and also perform. Either way your Coaches are in charge. Once the team can consostency hit a clean zero, your Coaches will probably add difficulty.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

The routine can be competitive, but if it’s not executed well, that is going to change how it scores.

Ex: you can have the most difficult level three pyramid there is but if it has technique issues, it’s going to score differently. Like yes, you may have hit the pyramid, but did you hit with good bracing, no weird arms, stunt technique good, etc.

 

[WinstonsGirl]

I can't comment on level 3 scores, as we're on a different and comparative score sheet in Canada. However, I once had a junior team hit 0, but they came 5th. Parent were confused. It was a good run. Upon looking at scoresheets, we were actually on par or slightly above the other teams in difficulty, but while we were clean, I re-watched the other team videos and they were sharp and so much tighter than our team. We changed a few small things and spent the next month focusing more on their execution to get them to that sharp hit clean and they won their next (big travel) competition, beating the teams who had been beating them all season.

Also know that if they seem to have less difficulty, that might be what they are capable of hitting clean and confidently in a full out run. And if that's less difficult than other teams, that's ok. I think everyone would rather feel good about the routine they did than try for harder skills they'r not confident with and possibly have falls/deductions.

 

[kayemm]

It's hard to comment without knowing what skills are in the routine. Overall it's usually better to have a routine with slightly lower difficulty that your kids can execute well and hit cleanly over a challenging routine that will look messy and is a risk of not hitting.

Assuming you are on United Scoring, I've tried to do a quick breakdown of the stunt section...

If you're looking at the scoresheet, you also need to look at the level appropriate skills list for the division. To score difficulty in the highest range you need to have a minimum of four different level appropriate skills performed by your MOST groups - this number varies depending on the amount of athletes on the floor, but for a team of 25 for example you would need 5 groups, performing four LA skills either rippled or synchronised throughout the routine without recycling athletes. That sticks you in the top range for difficulty which is 4.5. These need to be controlled - if the judge isn't sure what the skill is supposed to be then it won't count. We had timing issues in our pyramid last year at Summit and took a huge hit to pyramid difficulty because the judges said they couldn't identify the individual skills clearly enough to score them.

Then you need to look at drivers. The judge takes each individual skill and say "OK, was it an advanced skill, or an elite skill" - and then score accordingly - 0.1 for an advanced skill or 0.2 for an elite. They also have a driver for max participation and to max that your example team of 25 would need an elite skill performed by six groups to max out this driver and score a full 0.7.

Execution is where the stunt score can really take a hit as its basically a deduction system in all but name. You start with 4 and the judges start chipping away 0.1-0.3 for each area (top person, bases/spotters, transitions, synchronisation) based on lack of technical execution. This can be things as basic as flyers legs not being locked in the air or bases moving their feet too much under the stunt.

Total stunt score is out of 10 - 4.5 max for difficulty, 4 max for execution, and 1.5 max for difficulty drivers.

For level three, an example of elite skills would be a ball up from gut to prep heel stretch, a full up to two foot extension, 1/2 twist inversion from ground to extended BP (scale, arabesque, heel stretch etc) and a full twist cradle. Advanced skills would be a ball to prep lib (no BP), 1/2 twist inversion to extended lib (no BP), full up to prep BP, etc etc.

Hope this has been some help! You really need to look at the scoresheet, the actual scoring rubric and the level appropriate skills lists altogether to figure it all out. Please trust in your coach though. They will know what they are doing and will be giving your kids the most competitive routine they can confidently hit.

 

[TGMom]

Attached is the scoring rubic for level 3 referenced above. Your coaches should know your difficulty score going into each competition, provided the comp is using the United Scoring System. You can also get a good idea of the difficulty score by looking at the attached and cross referencing the skills in the routine along with the % of the team doing the skill(s). As far as what is a good difficulty score...my daughters coaches have always maxed out difficulty. The deduction for a building bobble is only .25, whereas doing an elite skill instead of level appropriate can potentially add 1.5 points to your score.