Summit Reflections And Recommendations

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  1. Boo21

    Boo21 I make my own voiceovers

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    This was my only problem with The Summit. The sandbagging and crossovers. To see kids from Junior 5 stingrays later show up on the junior 4 just squatting in the back and then tumbling to increase their tumbling score (obviously it is not against the rules and I am not faulting Stingrays for doing this) just saying I would like to see no crossovers at all for an event like The Summit. No crossovers for different teams at Worlds so the rules should be the same. If they change the crossover rule this year this would be a perfect competition because everything else was great!

     
  2. nmaggie

    nmaggie I Fierce Board instead of work/study

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  3. dawgshow

    dawgshow Slow your roll, Sparkle. National Champion

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    With the growth of cheer in the last few years, I see this being addressed soon by the powers that be. That's just my opinion and I base it only on feeling, for the record.
     
  4. WCMAN

    WCMAN When all else fails.... I shimmy

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    The NCA crossover rule would have its flaws. If a gym has a level 2 team get a Summit bid but not their level 4 team.What's to stop a level 2 team from filling their team with level4 athletes that are not competing at the Summit.
     
  5. nmaggie

    nmaggie I Fierce Board instead of work/study

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    This is true... But I guess it applies to any sport. It's hard to stop teams who are stacking athletes or sandbagging just to win. I'm not sure if there will ever be a real way to stop it. Relying on gyms honestly placing their athletes isn't working;)
     
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    GiaBellaMom When all else fails.... I shimmy

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    We got our pins!!! Yay! They were mailed to our coach this week LOL
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  7. rosebud

    rosebud I shimmy daily

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    I don't remember, was the Summit bids like Worlds bid where you needed to have the same people on the roster but could substitute a certain number of athletes (for injuries or kids that couldn't afford to go?)
     
  8. cheerinatorXdad

    cheerinatorXdad Best Flyer.. on a parent team

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    Yeah, I figure this event to become heavily sandbagged so those gyms can claim a trophy, jacket, ring, etc.
     
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    5-6-7-8 I have my own cheer message board

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  10. rosebud

    rosebud I shimmy daily

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    thanks! I think they should think of the same type of rule since it is set up like Worlds, keep the majority of the athletes that were on the team when the bid was won. Maybe that will help with some sandbagging.
     
  11. allstarmama

    allstarmama Last Pass... on International Open 1

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    At a minimum you should have to compete with the same number of athletes that were on the floor when the bid was won. That's just a no brainer for me and can't believe they didn't do that.
     
  12. allstarmama

    allstarmama Last Pass... on International Open 1

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    No, and this was the biggest problem for me. Just seems ridiculous that a large team with say 28 or 30 athletes could add kids up to the max # for large. It seemed to me this is what happened. It didn't look to me like there were teams sandbagging down a level. I noticed a TON of nuggeting going on LOL!
     
  13. allstarmama

    allstarmama Last Pass... on International Open 1

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    I think this would definitely help. I don't have a problem with a few crossovers here and there within 1 or maybe even 2 levels. But when you can just add 6 or 7 kids to a team after you get a bid...that's just silly. It's easy enough for the EP to say you have to compete with the same # of athletes that were on the floor at the time the bid was won.
     
  14. yojaehs

    yojaehs Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    I agree there are flaws but it's at least something. Current system of anything goes is not good.
     
  15. Cheer Observer

    Cheer Observer They call me Susie

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    Ding, Ding, Ding. Whatever it takes to get the hardware and it stinks because teams that should have a legit shot to win with the team that they won the bid with will lose out to teams who load up with higher level athletes to beat them out. I know I'm obviously not the only one who noticed it but with attention being brought to this subject I can only HOPE that some rules will be put into place to curb this practice. In my opinion it would be nice to see the roster handled just like Worlds and that may help to some degree. It would be nice for the playing field to be level for all teams.