T-jump

[MsElizabeth]

Can someone please explain to me why a t-jump backhandspring is or is not legal in level 2? I've gotten many mixed responses about this issue and I would like to hopefully get this resolved. Thanks in advance!



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[NJ Coach]

a t-jump backhandspring is legal in level 2. T-jumps or straight jumps are not considered actual jumps.

 

[MsElizabeth]

Is that posted anywhere on the usasf website where I can find it?


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[imrichhowboutu]

Is that posted anywhere on the usasf website where I can find it?


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I can promise you that it is legal. I clarified this with Les last year and this year and have it in Text. Not going to post the screenshot on here though.

 

[MsElizabeth]

My concern is that the competition we are attending says that it's illegal, unless we can prove otherwise. I just don't want my kids getting deducted for it.


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[FierceIsTheName]

My concern is that the competition we are attending says that it's illegal, unless we can prove otherwise. I just don't want my kids getting deducted for it.


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For level 2 , doing a jump to an immediate handspring is illegal, like landing the jump and automatically going backwards (like jumps to tuck). But if you pause it isn't illegal. So like hit the jump on "4" land "5", look up "6", swing "7,8" for the handspring, for example.

 

[CoachKelly]

You can even do T jump then step back BHS. But for Level 2 they have to be separated.

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[NJ Coach]

t-jump bhs is legal in level 2. You don't need a pause in between. T-jump tuck is legal in level 4 without a pause as well. T-jumps don't count as jumps.

 

[SarahS]

t-jump bhs is legal in level 2. You don't need a pause in between. T-jump tuck is legal in level 4 without a pause as well. T-jumps don't count as jumps.

I think the fear is that you go to a local competition and the safety judge rules that it is illegal because he/she is unaware that t-jumps don't count as jumps. If it were specified (perhaps as a "Clarification" as under other rules) then coaches would have something to point to and say "here's where it says this is legal." I completely understand that this cannot possibly be done for every single thing that falls into a sort of gray area... but it is certainly something that I take into consideration during choreography. I water down our routine for our first comp not because the kids can't hit but I'm not sure the judges (local rec comp) know the nuances and I've been burned before. That really sucks, much more for the kids than for me. Hard to explain that something *should* be legal and we have no recourse to get those deducted points back.

 

[NJ Coach]

I think the fear is that you go to a local competition and the safety judge rules that it is illegal because he/she is unaware that t-jumps don't count as jumps. If it were specified (perhaps as a "Clarification" as under other rules) then coaches would have something to point to and say "here's where it says this is legal." I completely understand that this cannot possibly be done for every single thing that falls into a sort of gray area... but it is certainly something that I take into consideration during choreography. I water down our routine for our first comp not because the kids can't hit but I'm not sure the judges (local rec comp) know the nuances and I've been burned before. That really sucks, much more for the kids than for me. Hard to explain that something *should* be legal and we have no recourse to get those deducted points back.

your best bet is to get it in writing from [email protected]

 

[uptown_outlaw]

that's why we do not go to bootleg competitions.. it's legal at Varsity events. done & done.

 

[championprincess]

The rule states that a jump SKILL cannot be connected to a BHS. A straight jump is not a jump SKILL.

 

[INeverStopCheering]

I just had this clarified with USASF and a T jump BHS IS legal....

However, the USASF needs to redefine jump in their glossary. According to themselves a jump and any time someone uses their legs to propel themselves off the ground. So even their own definition is a little shaky and leads to confusion


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[Little Coach]

We had that in our routine, and we received deductions from it because the judges said that the T jump could have been considered very bad pikes. So just make sure that the kids do not put their feet in front at all because even though, it was clearly (or at least I thought) not a pike, they still gave us that deduction.