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  1. Eyes On The Prize

    Eyes On The Prize Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Most EPs have policies where gyms have to bring x amount of teams/program to the comp in order to qualify for the bids (unless they travel outside of a specific distance). I'm unsure of the current policies but it used to be a high percentage of the program IIRC. Might've changed in the past couple of years, I haven't kept up on what the declarations are now.

     
  2. SthrnCheerMom

    SthrnCheerMom I text ACEDAD all the time

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    You are correct. When there is a group rate, the contract will normally read the hotel cannot offer a lower rate. Once we were supposed to be staying at a hotel with a group rate. This was around New Years. A discount site had a deal going and the pricing was supposed to be before and after our dates. Well there was a glitch and that rate showed for our stay. So several of us took that rate. They honored it but corrected the site.
     
  3. cheermomforever

    cheermomforever Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Usually 50% of gym must attend,but some gyms will say they r from their “sister” gym to bypass that rule.
     
  4. catlady

    catlady Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    On many of the EP's websites it would specifically say you would not find a lower "group rate." Many of these hotels had it so they could still offer lower individual rates on discount sites.
    It will be interesting to see how this works out. My soccer child neighbor said their last non-STP event just went to STP and our travel baseball neighbor said they just went to a non-STP event, but the closest hotel was 25 miles away, a Holiday Inn Express and $209 a night. My kids have aged out and retired, but my non-All Star neighbors are just as interested in knowing how this version works out for you all.
     
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  5. ChicagoCheerDad

    ChicagoCheerDad I shimmy daily

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    So this is really interesting, because in many cases the major hotel companies have contracts with major employers to provide them the best rates and are contractually required to extend that rate for employee leisure. On top of that sites like Priceline buy blocks of rooms at a contracted rate based on the expected average rate for that level hotel on that date. These would both seem to be in conflict with the protecting the STP vendors.
     
  6. catlady

    catlady Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    The loophole is hotels could change their contracts ever so slightly and they would never have to meet a single lower rate because it wouldn't be "comparable."

    *Lowest Room Rate Guarantee will be honored when comparable rooms are found for a lower rate. If you find a room of the same type (double, king, etc.), on the same dates, with the same included amenities (breakfast, parking, etc.) and with the same team-friendly payment and cancellation terms, please report it to the Housing Partner.
     
  7. 5monkeysjumping

    5monkeysjumping I shimmy daily

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    I always just book my own rooms anyway. I never book trough their company. I have a kid with medical needs who has certain requirements and a lot of the time, the hotels we have the option of can’t provide that. I learned that my very first competition when she was a mini 1. Never again. Now I just stay at the best place for us and our needs and no one has ever called me out for it.
     
  8. CLynn

    CLynn I named my pet Sir Fierce-a-lot

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    Do you put your kids name on someone else’s rooming list? We need to submit our reservations to our program and I know firsthand that at least NCA Dallas checks those lists. That said, I know many who applied for exemptions without having a problem. That seems a fairly straightforward approach to take.
     
  9. 5monkeysjumping

    5monkeysjumping I shimmy daily

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    No. No one has ever asked. I know plenty of people who stay with relatives or book their own rooms with points and we don’t have to let anyone know anything.
     
  10. BlueCat

    BlueCat Roses are red, cats are blue National Champion

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    Given the medical requirements angle, I would just continuing to do what you are doing. However, bringing attention to yourself for skirting the system probably isn't the best plan.
     
  11. Notintheknow

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  12. Cheerfun2

    Cheerfun2 I'm an announcer on CBS for Worlds (or should be)

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    Usually you have to get an exemption to do this. They require our gym to send a list of athletes and their reservation # or exemption #. Otherwise, everyone would do what you are doing & no one would use STP & it would be pointless. I think you are lucky you haven’t been caught.
    Oh, and I think you could legitimately get an exemption for medical reasons if there isn’t a hotel on the list that meets your child’s needs.
     
  13. OldskoolKYcheercoach

    OldskoolKYcheercoach There are Cheeropedia articles about me!

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    What’s the penalty associated with violating the gestapo on this?
     
  14. Notintheknow

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    We have had families going out of the blocks for years with no issues, but just today, we received notice to book all 3 of our away comps with a hard message that STP was required. It stated that everything was being checked and if things didn’t line up, the gym would not be bid eligible. We’ve never had this kind of messaging before- sounds like things are not changing for the better, around here, anyway.
     
  15. Cheerfun2

    Cheerfun2 I'm an announcer on CBS for Worlds (or should be)

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    We’ve been told team could be dq’ed. Not sure if it’s ever been done.