Varsitys New Rule Of 5 Max Crossovers Between Worlds And Summit?

Discussion in 'Allstar Cheerleading' started by cheermomforever, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. AndrewSky

    AndrewSky Slow your roll, Sparkle.

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    2,783
    Shimmys Received:
    10,300
    Location:
    Nashville
    I am a(n)...:
    Retired From Cheer
    Five too many. With the possibility of one emergency crossover if they really want to play nice.

     
  2. allstarmama

    allstarmama Last Pass... on International Open 1

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Messages:
    285
    Shimmys Received:
    196
    Web:
    I'm just curious why everyone only cares about the World's athletes crossing over? IMO there were MUCH bigger crossover problems at The Summit. The biggest one being you didn't have to compete with the same athletes or the same # of athletes you won the bid with! A Youth 2 team of 22 can still add 10 level 4 kids if they want! That's ridiculous and such a bigger problem than World's athletes crossing over. Also, a gym with a SR5 can cross all those kids over to whatever teams they want at The Summit to stack teams. If they are going to address crossovers how about doing something that will actually help.
     
  3. yojaehs

    yojaehs Slow your roll, Sparkle.

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2011
    Messages:
    2,190
    Shimmys Received:
    4,243
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    Verified Member:
    Shea Crawford
    Florida Wildcat Tumbling Director
    Zero crossovers is the right thing to do. Justin is able to make his event work with very minimal crossovers and that event has grown the since the limitations.


    The Fierce Board App! || iPhone || Android || Upgrade Your Account!
     
  4. quitthedrama

    quitthedrama I buy my Insta followers

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2010
    Messages:
    5,403
    Shimmys Received:
    19,436
    I am a(n)...:
    Parent
    not only can 5 too many Worlds athletes cross to a Summit team, but it can be a level 1 Summit team. It's time to stop the madness.
     
  5. cheernerd5678

    cheernerd5678 Slow your roll, Sparkle. Bracket Winner

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    5,405
    Shimmys Received:
    10,596
    I am a(n)...:
    Retired From Cheer
    To everyone complaining - at least they're trying! Last year an infinite # could cross between the two. It's a start. I mean I don't know about anyone else but id rather see a level 1 team with five level 5 athletes than a level 1 team with all level 5 athletes. Zero would be ideal but they might be trying this to see reactions and inch the # downward over the next couple years. It's a new event and I'm sure they don't want to anger anyone too much and lose business. Who knows. It's an improvement because at least there's a limit now...


    The Fierce Board App! || iPhone || Android || Upgrade Your Account!
     
  6. cheermomforever

    cheermomforever Slow your roll, Sparkle.

    Joined:
    May 16, 2012
    Messages:
    3,328
    Shimmys Received:
    3,131
    I am a(n)...:
    Parent
    I have wondered why a coach or athletes would feel proud of winning a level 2 when they compete 5?
     
  7. callmecoach

    callmecoach Slow your roll, Sparkle.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2012
    Messages:
    793
    Shimmys Received:
    2,714
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach

    Agreed. I appreciate the limitation being put into place (although I do think 5 is too many) but Worlds athletes should be allowed to cross to J5 and R5 only.
     
  8. allstarmama

    allstarmama Last Pass... on International Open 1

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Messages:
    285
    Shimmys Received:
    196
    Web:
    But an infinite # of level 4's can cross to levels 1,2,& 3? Just not sure how this "levels the playing field".


    The Fierce Board App! || iPhone || Android || Upgrade Your Account!
     
  9. 12stepCheermom

    12stepCheermom Best Parent and Grammar Teacher '14

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,994
    Shimmys Received:
    24,085
    I am a(n)...:
    Parent
    I'm thinking if you're angering the teams sandbagging by not letting them sandbag....you're making the right people angry.


    The Fierce Board App! || iPhone || Android || Upgrade Your Account!
     
  10. cheernerd5678

    cheernerd5678 Slow your roll, Sparkle. Bracket Winner

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    5,405
    Shimmys Received:
    10,596
    I am a(n)...:
    Retired From Cheer
    Oh definitely but from a business aspect I don't think Varsity would see it that way;)
     
  11. callmecoach

    callmecoach Slow your roll, Sparkle.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2012
    Messages:
    793
    Shimmys Received:
    2,714
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach

    No. They shouldn't cross either in a perfect world. But we're talking about Worlds crossovers so that's what I was referring to.
     
  12. allstarmama

    allstarmama Last Pass... on International Open 1

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Messages:
    285
    Shimmys Received:
    196
    Web:
    Right...my point is why make a rule that only covers World's crossovers? All the while allowing other crazy sandbagging/stacking. Like the ability to win bid with a team of 22 but make that a team of 32 just to compete at the Summit! Say it's a level 2
    and you add 10 level 4's. It's ridiculous that The Summit doesn't require you to compete with the athletes that were on the floor when the bid was won. Call me crazy but that's a no brainer and should have been the FIRST thing they addressed!!!



    The Fierce Board App! || iPhone || Android || Upgrade Your Account!
     
  13. jdawgc

    jdawgc They call me Susie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2010
    Messages:
    47
    Shimmys Received:
    50
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    This is a reason why people think we are not a legit sport.
     
  14. allstarmama

    allstarmama Last Pass... on International Open 1

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Messages:
    285
    Shimmys Received:
    196
    Web:
    Just want to throw out there that I'm not in the least bit angry it just seems like a silly place to start when there were much bigger issues they could have addressed than the Worlds athletes. 5 Worlds Athletes but you can have an infinite number of level 4s on a level 1/2 team oh and while you're at it you can add as many athletes as you want regardless of level (as long as there aren't more than 5 Worlds athletes) AFTER you win your bid LOL


    The Fierce Board App! || iPhone || Android || Upgrade Your Account!
     
  15. callmecoach

    callmecoach Slow your roll, Sparkle.

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2012
    Messages:
    793
    Shimmys Received:
    2,714
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach

    Agreed. If this is supposed to be "the" event for levels 1-4 then there should be a lot of effort being put into ensuring fair competition at those levels. Maybe there is and we just don't know it yet. It's still a year away. Hopefully there will be more where this came from.