All-Star Cea Chicago

[Emily]

Whenever a thread criticizes a specific gym (Cali, CEA, etc.) I always take a step back and ask what it is that people are reacting to.

I also wonder if we substituted another gym name, would people still find the action to be wrong?

For example, would this still be unacceptable if it were Spirit of Texas: Chicago Edition? Cheer Athletics Chicago? ACE of Chicago?

It is the "big gym" name people react to. If it were "no-name allstars" people wouldn't be upset. It probably wouldn't even be a thread on the boards. It would be a topic to the locals, but wouldn't gather attention otherwise at all.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

Illinois peeps may know this:

If quarter season teams are common-ish, wouldn't that mean CEA isn't the only program recruiting/advertising/looking for kids right now?

CC: @KDCheerMom

 

[fullinitup]

CA Frisco didn't just have classes. They had teams for prep and had coaches come from other programs who recruited kids to come and join when they left.
It's something that happens and will continue to happen in this industry and I don't see it changing.

 

[dawgshow]

Oh no totally I was just saying that because most of the posts seem to be negatively turned towards CEA

Oh my negativity is aimed towards the situation, not the gyms involved.


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[Cheermom1969]

It is the "big gym" name people react to. If it were "no-name allstars" people wouldn't be upset. It probably wouldn't even be a thread on the boards. It would be a topic to the locals, but wouldn't gather attention otherwise at all.

I don't believe that's true at all. Take the names out of it, just the facts as we know them at this point, and my opinion would be the same.

I actually don't have a negative opinion of CEA, I'm not a "hater" and I have no dog in this fight. I think Courtney is a pretty impressive lady. But the way this situation is unfolding is unfortunate in my opinion.


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[Lablover]

If CEA wasn't involved, would people feel differently? Say the coach in question was terminated from her gym and was able to secure space/rental time at another location and opened her own gym (without the backing of a mega gym) and her former athletes joined her new gym mid-season. Would we even be discussing this on fierce board? It just seems like people are reacting to CEA being involved.

 

[luv2cheer92]

If CEA wasn't involved, would people feel differently? Say the coach in question was terminated from her gym and was able to secure space/rental time at another location and opened her own gym (without the backing of a mega gym) and her former athletes joined her new gym mid-season. Would we even be discussing this on fierce board? It just seems like people are reacting to CEA being involved.

I can say with certainty that my opinion would not change if it was two no-name gyms involved.

 

[njallday]

Registration for CHEERSPORT closed on January 5th... sooo... yeah, that's interesting.

I believe ICE is/was also attending CHEERSPORT (I don't know if they're bringing everyone or select teams) so that means some parents are potentially paying for this competition twice and that's ridiculous.

 

[Belinda]

Yes I do understand this but I guess I'm thinking more like... what is the rush since it all just happened super fast

Hypothetical: coach is fires/resigns. Needs to find a new job asap, as everyone would. Has this dream of running her own gym. In comes the opportunity from an established gym, to open an affiliate in your state, they will help start it off, find space etc. The coach knows theres a good chance of good high school cheerleaders coming on for a quarter team. Though if you wait too long they will be going elsewhere.. Why would they just sit around on their butt for months when the opportunity presents itself? I don't think alot of unemployed people would say no to an amazing job offering.

Yes everything that has unfolded is unfortunate, but I can't say I blame or don't understand the coach's actions tbh.

 

[acecheermom]

My kids (and we) were unhappy by late November in a program. After December is was downright unbearable and we made the decision to leave...

...at the end of the season.

Integrity is important in our house and leaving mid season on their coaches/teams wasn't even a consideration. To make it seem shorter we all privately counted down the number of times they'd have to put the uniform on (because it was a smaller number).

The following year I fought the same battle with ex-CP and doubted myself many times on whether forcing her to finish what she started was the right choice. In the end, she let me know it was (even though it was 4ish months of hell in our house). But when we picked her up on worlds finals day for some park time (her team didn't make the finals cut) one of the first things she said from the backseat was "mom....dad....I never said thank you."

"Thanks for what babe? Starbucks?" (We'd just gotten her some)

"No. Thank you for making me finish the season. You're right. I would've regretted it if i quit when I wanted to."

Almost cried, no lie.

Maybe I'm old school but I'm not a fan of permissive parenting and immediate gratification. I believe in commitment, integrity, focus, goal setting and hard work to get what you want. And I believe in teaching that to my kids.

Because sometimes being a parent sucks and not only do you need to say "no" you need to stick to your guns through their ongoing, teenage, carpet-bombing warfare because it's what they'll learn that's more important than what they'll get.

There's not much time left in the season, that gym will still be there next season, if there was nothing personally dangerous/safety concerning at their original gym there's no way in the world I'd let my kids leave their team mid-season. What those kids will learn (and it will be a lot) will be far better for them as people. Cheer is temporary, life lessons are permanent.


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Integrity is important in my household too. However we have once quit a program mid-November. We were with a small gym program here locally. The first year we had a great experience. The second year we found out at the end of October that the gym was breaking USASF rules, one of them regarding the age grid for team levels. We first went to the all-star director. We were lied to. I then went to the gym owner. He agreed to look into it. He then did nothing about it. When they fired a coach for telling the truth about the rules they were breaking and then did nothing to comply with the rules. I said forget it we are out of here.

So sometimes integrity is about standing up for what is right, i.e. following the rules of the governing body of your sport. We kept our integrity by leaving and refusing to participate in a program that would not follow the rules.

That is the ONLY time we've ever left mid season and I would do it all over again under the same circumstances.

 

[Cheer0825]

Oh my negativity is aimed towards the situation, not the gyms involved.


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Wasn't aiming at anyone specific

 

[cheerisloving]

live in Alexandria, work in Arlington. to my friends/family in Maine I say I "live just outside DC"

What's funny is that a girl from Fairfax told my friend that she could say she right next to DC because she wasn't close enough and some kid told me Arlington was in DC lol

 

[tumbleyoda]

Illinois peeps may know this:

If quarter season teams are common-ish, wouldn't that mean CEA isn't the only program recruiting/advertising/looking for kids right now?

CC: @KDCheerMom

Many Illinois programs offer quarter season teams, but not all offer quarter season Worlds teams or teams that go to major competitions like CheerSport, One Up, etc. We offer a quarter season team but it is geared towards Middle School age athletes and only to get them ready for their next school cheer season. We only do 1-2 local competitions and that is it. It is one of our more popular offerings and the school cheer coaches support it because they know we are not trying to recruit these kids to do All Stars.

 

[gofriars610]

Well I like to take about 1% of the credit for cp17 because that's how we parented them both and he set a ridiculously high goal for himself years ago and worked harder than any kid I know to achieve it. 99% of his achievement is his own.

I was so scared he wouldn't reach it and would call BS on everything we ever taught him.

So my tears of pride when it happened for him, mixed with the joy of watching your kid reach his dreams were also mixed with relief that maybe I got that one right.

One down, one to go [emoji4]


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wait...did I miss something re: CP17?!?!?

 

[12stepCheermom]

wait...did I miss something re: CP17?!?!?

My son. He's a senior. My daughter left cheer this year (she's former cp15)


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