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My district eliminated class rankings too. They have it but won't publicize it, so I have no idea who the 26 people above me are but I know I'm 27th because she had to tell me for a scholarship. Valedictorians are just 4.0s. They also eliminated honors English and studies because they claim that honors was a status symbol, but you can contract for honors and get a crap ton of busy work for no reward since GPAs aren't weighted, or you can take an AP class that you're not going to do well in if you truly belong in honors.

Why are they so determined to push everyone down to the same, lower, standard?
 
Why are they so determined to push everyone down to the same, lower, standard?
Exactly! My brother has ADHD and Aspergers and he's really not super motivated in school but he's really smart. After he took honors in 8th grade (before they eliminated it) he was like "wow, I want to take all honors classes, they're so much more enjoyable and the conversation and motivation of everyone is just better." He actually enjoyed his classes (a first) and was motivated to do well.
He took one year of contracting for honors and decided never to take honors English/studies again because it was all busy work and there were none of those benefits he expected so it was back to not being motivated.
It's kids like him that it's hurting. I'm fine because I take AP classes so I've never contracted for honors, but there are some kids who truly need the honors class to be an option. My mom goes to every single meeting where they talk about it and speaks her opinion because she feels so passionately about it. It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't know any parents who actually like it.
 
Exactly! My brother has ADHD and Aspergers and he's really not super motivated in school but he's really smart. After he took honors in 8th grade (before they eliminated it) he was like "wow, I want to take all honors classes, they're so much more enjoyable and the conversation and motivation of everyone is just better." He actually enjoyed his classes (a first) and was motivated to do well.
He took one year of contracting for honors and decided never to take honors English/studies again because it was all busy work and there were none of those benefits he expected so it was back to not being motivated.
It's kids like him that it's hurting. I'm fine because I take AP classes so I've never contracted for honors, but there are some kids who truly need the honors class to be an option. My mom goes to every single meeting where they talk about it and speaks her opinion because she feels so passionately about it. It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't know any parents who actually like it.

Yeah, that's ridic. So your only options are college prep or advanced placement? or is there a lower level below college prep.
 
All of y'all saying you had a graduating class of like 200-400 makes me ENVIOUS! We had a class of almost 900 students, and my city isn't "that" big in Dallas.. that ceremony was like 4.5 hours long....torture!
 
Nope there's just regular (with "honors by contract") and AP.

no no no no that's even worse.

1. Not everyone should go to college. There should be a course level appropriate for these students. (this was "level 2" at my high school, but other schools call it "standard prep" or "college prep-2 year school")
1.a. Not everyone is capable of college work, which is fine! We're all different.
1.b. Not everyone is going to want to go to college either. Plenty of jobs do not require a college degree.

2. Some people want to go to college, but are comfortably in the middle of the bell curve intellectually. There should be something for these students. (We called this "level three" at my high school, but most places call this "college prep")

3. Not everyone can handle Advanced Placement (which is supposed to equal a college course) while in high school. There should be something for these students as well. This would be "honors," for students with a higher intellectual capacity than the level 2 or level 3 kids, but who are not quite ready for the rigor AP courses.

4. AP/Dual enrollment. (self-explanatory. the top of the top are in these courses.)

Putting students in an environment with their intellectual equals will benefit them more than putting them in a classroom with a wide variety of intelligence/motivational levels. This would presumably make the teacher's job easier as well.

How big is your high school?
 
I hear my cp talk about grades and some kids have a 4.7 GPA with honors/AP classes. Crazy! Plus they do sports.
I lot of my high school classmates never did their homework for APs. They would only do projects and study for tests. They also had thriving social lives and participated in sports, clubs, etc.

I thought each graduating class is only supposed to have one valedictorian?
 
I took AP math in high school and wanted to stab my eyes out the majority of the year. And i only took it cause I knew AP classes raised your gpa more, and I really wanted to graduate with honors even if it was in only one class.

I also knew people who took AP English just to get out of the senior project. lol. ( kids who took ap English were exempt from having to do it)
 
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