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hopskipandjump said:
I used to do those tension rolls in high school a long long long time ago. They are not as difficult to perform as they look but the crowd reaction to them was fantastic....I don't really understand why they became illegal to perform. We also used to toss people over other people all the time; as were the knee drops to the wood floor. (OWwww.
Perhaps someone in the know can explain why the tension rolls were banned?
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I think they banned tension rolls because tho if done properly they are really spectacular and relatively easy, if they are done badly they have really nasty consequences for the top person (and sometimes the base too) because they have just fallen 5 and a half foot towards the floor, also when cheer isn't done on mats it's really bad for the knee joints and stuff to take that sort of impact even from such a relatively low height.
 
can you imagine your choreography actually being to fall out of a stunt..

and i loveee in the second video at like :38 the girl just working out her arm dancing in the front of the pyramid
 
I love how at the end it says "for updates safety guidelines visit the aaca." I mean I can't imagine ANYONE getting hurt cheerleading and you know they hit those stunts EVERYTIME right from the beginning (sarcasm implied)
 
Wheelchair Partner Stunt said:
I think they banned tension rolls because tho if done properly they are really spectacular and relatively easy, if they are done badly they have really nasty consequences for the top person (and sometimes the base too) because they have just fallen 5 and a half foot towards the floor, also when cheer isn't done on mats it's really bad for the knee joints and stuff to take that sort of impact even from such a relatively low height.
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Thank you. I never even thought about the knee and ankles and the impact of doing that. (ah to be young again).
Still, falling 5 and half feet towards the floor is not as nerve racking as the basket tosses I see being thrown these days!
 
Wheelchair Partner Stunt said:
We do similar stuff to this in the Circus troop i train with! when i first started to train with them and put someone into an extension to hear them say to the flyer, now tuck off that, i gotta tell you i was shocked! but when practiced in the right environment with the right equipment all totally possible. It's a shame that more technique isn't taken from the acro gymnastic side/circus of stunting because they've got a couple of hundred years more development than cheer does and have ways to make everything so much easier. Stunting from my wheelchair I often find it hard to press to extension and things dynamically because i'm basically dead lifting with just my back and shoulder muscles and don't have the capability to "pop" with my legs but when I do stuff at circus and the flyer instead of stying tight for the lift also does a "tempo" (type of jumping of popping movement initiated by both parties instead of just one) suddenly i can lift much heavier people and with a lot more ease and dynamic.
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Can you tell me what time you perform? I would love to watch this and also, are you bringing your shirts to sell??? You could make a fortune! I know I want one.
 
UAFan22 said:
ha ha!! I actually did that extended split pyramid (at 0:38) with my rec team when I was about 8 (1983). I was the flyer on top and my mom just about had a heart attack when she saw me. ha ha!!
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Does anyone know if this video was at Salisbury State in Maryland? I swear it was EXACTLY like this when I cheered and that is where we went to camp.
 
hopskipandjump said:
Thank you. I never even thought about the knee and ankles and the impact of doing that. (ah to be young again).
Still, falling 5 and half feet towards the floor is not as nerve racking as the basket tosses I see being thrown these days!
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I agree that it may not be as nerve wracking for the flyer since a tension drop is under their own control whereas a basket toss is under the control of the bases beneath you however Baskets usually have quite alot of skill progression built in, you don't get through 10 feet first time whereas a tension drop the only progression is gut, shoulders, extension and the impact bracing isn't there at all whereas again (so long as the bases do it right) baskets are caught and braced making it a much safer landing....I sadly know full well the fragility of knees and ankles, and it happened whilst i was still, some consider, young

hopskipandjump said:
Can you tell me what time you perform? I would love to watch this and also, are you bringing your shirts to sell??? You could make a fortune! I know I want one.
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As far as i know we're doing a performance at ICU just after the other partner stunt competitors so thats on Thursday at around 6:48 and I've been told we're on at another point over the weekend but not yet when, i'll be keeping people up to date on it all via my Facebook page www.facebook.com/wheelchairpartnerstunt, I only managed to get a couple of t-shirts done for before we leave so i can do a couple of swaps but they'll be available on the website for sale after the comp and they do deliver to the US so you can get one then too :) (btw thanks for the kind words :D )
 
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