All-Star How Come There Is No Jr. World But Dance?

[MissCongeniality]

You're the only person starting drama. The reason why I asked here, is because there isn't an active dance site for all star dance. I know for a given fact that everyone on this board are cheerleaders or ever have been.

Stage management is different from competition dance and dance all together. Just saying. I wasn't trying to be rude. But when people say dance isn't as prestigious, it gets to me just as it got to the other user you're talking to. if you read a previous statement, the user was clearly saying dance isn't as prestigious as Cheer by calling dance worlds just another nationals. It's very insulting to real dancers.

Nobody! Nobody! Nobody said dance is "less prestigious". My friends who ARE dancers say they view Dance Worlds more along the lines of a Nationals which is not how most in the cheer world view Worlds.

 

[Fierce_Elite]

Did you even READ my post? Seriously!? Go back and re read.... I start off by saying that I am a cheer mom and go on to note that the reaction to dance worlds is from my friends in the dance industry. YOU may have a different impression of dance worlds than they do. That's fine. To them (and trust me they are part of a top notch team in California) Dance Worlds is not the ultimate destination the way Cheerleaders look at Worlds. That doesn't make them wrong or you right. And no, it does not at all "pretty much talk down dance"! It's an opinion not a diss, and it comes from families of dancers (not cheerleaders)!

Everyone can think what they want of course. but no one should ever say such prestigious competitions are not as prestigious just because it isn't as big as cheer and the dance division is smaller.

Again, very insulting.

 

[MissCongeniality]

Saying dance worlds is just like another nationals just because it isn't taken the way cheer worlds are, is a very insulting comment to anyone on here who is a dancer.

Dancers said it! It was their opinion. I was (and made it clear in my original post) citing them!

 

[mamabear]

You're the only person starting drama. The reason why I asked here, is because there isn't an active dance site for all star dance. I know for a given fact that everyone on this board are cheerleaders or ever have been.

Stage management is different from competition dance and dance all together. Just saying. I wasn't trying to be rude. But when people say dance isn't as prestigious, it gets to me just as it got to the other user you're talking to. if you read a previous statement, the user was clearly saying dance isn't as prestigious as Cheer by calling dance worlds just another nationals. It's very insulting to real dancers.

Omg...you really have no clue do you? We are talking about the EVENT not the sport of dancing. No one was insulting "real dancers" as you phrased it. I would never pit cheer vs. dance .

 

[Fierce_Elite]

Nobody! Nobody! Nobody said dance is "less prestigious". My friends who ARE dancers say they view Dance Worlds more along the lines of a Nationals which is not how most in the cheer world view Worlds.

Well I have to disagree with that and the way you put it, sounds like a dis.

 

[Jennie]

Saying dance worlds is just like another nationals just because it isn't taken the way cheer worlds are, is a very insulting comment to anyone on here who is a dancer.

All she's trying to say is that Dance Worlds is not the epitome of the dancing world.
Dance has another competition that is the same level of prestige as Worlds is to Cheer.

Every sport is different.

 

[MissCongeniality]

Everyone can think what they want of course. but no one should ever say such prestigious competitions are not as prestigious just because it isn't as big as cheer and the dance division is smaller.

Again, very insulting.

Whatever! You are entitled to your opinion that dancers telling me they don't view Dance Worlds as a "big end all be all" the way cheerleaders view worlds is "insulting". I guess they're not entitled to THEIR opinions!

 

[Fierce_Elite]

I'm just going to stop replying to u all together. Just because a couple of your dance friends said it, doesn't mean that's how all people should view it.

 

[MissCongeniality]

All she's trying to say is that Dance Worlds is not the epitome of the dancing world.
Dance has another competition that is the same level of prestige as Worlds is to Cheer.

Every sport is different.

Thank you.

 

[MissCongeniality]

I'm just going to stop replying to u all together. Just because a couple of your dance friends said it, doesn't mean that's how all people should view it.

Um ok. Did I EVER say that it was how ALL people should view it? Ever?

 

[icame2WERQ]

I think there needs to be an age requirement on the boards. Or at least a reading comprehension test before one can post.

I'm getting sick of reading children posts on these boards.

 

[njallday]

I'm just going to stop replying to u all together. Just because a couple of your dance friends said it, doesn't mean that's how all people should view it.

i mean really. not one person said the sport of dance was not prestigious and the teams who make Worlds their goal obviously find winning an accomplishment. but if you go out in to the real dance world (like talk to people on a dance forum perhaps? not cheerleading.) majority have never even heard of the competition. over half the bids are given out at cheerleading competitions for pete's sake. the other half are NDA/UDA, which are sister companies of a giant cheerleading conglomerate and really only hold prestige in the school/pom maybe hip-hop dance world. (and by prestige i do not mean the teams are not talented who win. i mean if you put winning NDA/UDA/Worlds on your dancer resume it doesn't hold much merit)

there are 4 dance studios owned by members of my immediate family. no one in any of those studios have heard of USASF Dance worlds, i've asked. i know, now you're going to tell me that that is a poor sampling of the dance world and i don't know what i'm talking about. but if all of these people around the country are telling you that the true dance world* have never heard of it, shouldn't that say something about the prestige of the competition?

*i am defining "true dance world" as dance taking place outside of/not associated with a cheerleading facility. not because the kids who dance through a cheer gym are not dancers, some of those teams are phenomenal, but because it's just a small niche of the cheerleading industry versus the whole dance industry.

sigh. i don't know why i wasted my fingers' energy typing that, since you're just going to have some exasperated response on how we're just causing drama and hate dancers...

 

[CharlotteASMom]

there are 4 dance studios owned by members of my immediate family. no one in any of those studios have heard of USASF Dance worlds, i've asked. i know, now you're going to tell me that that is a poor sampling of the dance world and i don't know what i'm talking about. but if all of these people around the country are telling you that the true dance world* have never heard of it, shouldn't that say something about the prestige of the ...

We've got several family friends with children that dance at the level that they intend to pursue it as a career. They've never heard of dance worlds either.

 

[sarahh_cheers]

Worlds is the most prestigious in the allstar/usasf dance community. it might not be in the general competitive dance world.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

i mean really. not one person said the sport of dance was not prestigious and the teams who make Worlds their goal obviously find winning an accomplishment. but if you go out in to the real dance world (like talk to people on a dance forum perhaps? not cheerleading.) majority have never even heard of the competition. over half the bids are given out at cheerleading competitions for pete's sake. the other half are NDA/UDA, which are sister companies of a giant cheerleading conglomerate and really only hold prestige in the school/pom maybe hip-hop dance world. (and by prestige i do not mean the teams are not talented who win. i mean if you put winning NDA/UDA/Worlds on your dancer resume it doesn't hold much merit)

there are 4 dance studios owned by members of my immediate family. no one in any of those studios have heard of USASF Dance worlds, i've asked. i know, now you're going to tell me that that is a poor sampling of the dance world and i don't know what i'm talking about. but if all of these people around the country are telling you that the true dance world* have never heard of it, shouldn't that say something about the prestige of the competition?

*i am defining "true dance world" as dance taking place outside of/not associated with a cheerleading facility. not because the kids who dance through a cheer gym are not dancers, some of those teams are phenomenal, but because it's just a small niche of the cheerleading industry versus the whole dance industry.

sigh. i don't know why i wasted my fingers' energy typing that, since you're just going to have some exasperated response on how we're just causing drama and hate dancers...

Oh. My. Jesus.

Why do I even bother... But yes! THIS. Agree with all of this.

I'm quite new to the dance world, but the people I work with aren't. I'm nowhere near California, or new Jersey, so maybe since the 3 of us are spread out all over the map it'll count as a "good sampling?"

@Fierce_Elite - one, NO ONE said DANCE wasn't as prestigious. You're just looking for stuff that is not there. They said that the USASF Dance Worlds is not as prestigious IN THE DANCE COMMUNITY as Cheer Worlds is in the cheer community. It's really not hard to understand - or believe.

Two, I work in "the real dance world" - not affiliated with a cheer gym in any way. Our studio is home to many well known professional dancers, as well as a good sized competition team. Our staff is composed 100% of "working" dancers - professional, paid dancers with the Joffrey, Giordano, Cats, The Lion King, Culture Shock, Framework, etc. - many of whom you've probably seen on TV plenty of times. Our competition team travels nationwide to compete (like most - just throwing that in so you stop acting like no one on here has ever met dancers that compete). No one there - literally NO ONE - has heard of Dance Worlds. Trust me - no one I work with thinks dance is not prestigious. It's their life's work! They just have never heard of the USASF - because they are not the "governing body" for dance.

So, you've got people from California, NJ/NY, and Chicago telling you that no, "real" dancers don't consider USASF Dance Worlds the ultimate in dance, and you're saying we just don't know the right people? No, YOU don't know the right people.

I know you do this on purpose because you think it's funny - but really, you are such a troll. I doubt you've ever met one person involved in cheer or dance.

ETA - when I say I'm new to the dance world, I mean with my job and my kids. But I danced my whole life. I was in ballet for 16 years, but we didn't compete (I don't know if there even were competitions back then). But I'm new to competitive dance. This is only our 2nd year.