All-Star Rude Encounters

[12stepCheermom]

Basically what I'm saying is, no matter your size, sportsmanship training starts in the gym. If you don't have it there, you won't bring it to the competition. More than likely.


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This is totally off topic and likely not picky but it drives my OCD nuts....why do you quote yourself? I keep looking for the comment you're referring to when I realize it's actually something you said that you're responding to...so I don't ever really know who you're talking to at all.


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[Fierce_Elite]

This is totally off topic and likely not picky but it drives my OCD nuts....why do you quote yourself? I keep looking for the comment you're referring to when I realize it's actually something you said that you're responding to...so I don't ever really know who you're talking to at all.


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I don't know. I don't even realize it's doing that. Cause when I quote, it says I'm quoting the person.


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[Pebbles49]

I've experienced the same thing. Even so much as a woman from another gym bumping me with her shoulder as she walked past me. Do I blame the gym? No. But she wasn't real bright, wearing her gym shirt.

I think this thread is just asking for people to get into fights here on the board. Every gym has their a-holes and every gym has their wonderful people. This subject is just silly, in my opinion.

You know Cheermom1969, you are definitely right... I did not blame all the people from this person's gym and I contributed her poor behavior on her. Matter of fact, this person made herself look really bad by trying to instigate an argument' because most of the people sitting in the area offered me a seat even closer to the stage and these nice people were from smaller gyms...

I too think that this discussion is mute; because everybody have a story of when somebody was being rude, regardless, if it is someone from a Big Gym or a Small Gym, it happens...So we should judge individual's action on that person upbringing and not the gym...

Side note: I remember at an old gym and even the gym we are at now, we had Parent Meetings that stressed how our behavior had a big impact on how people perceive the gym and many times, the judges' are watching how gyms behave, so be nice and show good sportsmanship at all time...

 

[BlueCat]

I have been hearing lots of stories lately about big gyms being rude and ignorant to other small gyms as well as fans. Have you ever experienced big gyms or famous cheerleaders being rude?

I have experienced rude people from "big gyms". I have experienced rude people from small gyms. I have experienced rude famous people. I have experienced rude people who hardly anyone has ever heard of. I have also experience rude people who live in New York. I have experienced rude people who are of Asian descent. I have experienced rude straight people. I have experienced rude Christians. I have experienced rude wealthy people. None of that makes me believe that everyone in those groups is rude.

There are rude/ignorant/unpleasant people from nearly every walk of life. I would caution you to avoid pre-judging people based on the gym shirt they are wearing, the size of their gym, the color of their skin, etc. Just because someone is rude doesn't mean their gym somehow caused (or could have prevented) that behavior. If someone is rude, THEY are rude - not everyone who has the same color t-shirt on.

<<Trying to avoid a preachy tangent about anecdotal evidence, sample size, group bias, and correlation/causality>>

 

[calikristin]

I have experienced rude people from "big gyms". I have experienced rude people from small gyms. I have experienced rude famous people. I have experienced rude people who hardly anyone has ever heard of. I have also experience rude people who live in New York. I have experienced rude people who are of Asian descent. I have experienced rude straight people. I have experienced rude Christians. I have experienced rude wealthy people. None of that makes me believe that everyone in those groups is rude.

There are rude/ignorant/unpleasant people from nearly every walk of life. I would caution you to avoid pre-judging people based on the gym shirt they are wearing, the size of their gym, the color of their skin, etc. Just because someone is rude doesn't mean their gym somehow caused (or could have prevented) that behavior. If someone is rude, THEY are rude - not everyone who has the same color t-shirt on.

<<Trying to avoid a preachy tangent about anecdotal evidence, sample size, group bias, and correlation/causality>>

I am not pre judging anyone what so ever I was just curious in hearing some stories about rude encounters with big gyms that is all. I understand that anyone and everyone can be rude at times. Like I just mentioned I just wanted to hear more stories.

 

[Pebbles49]

I also meant to out it starts at home as well.

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Hey Fierce_Elite, I have the feeling that I am quite a bit older than you, probably your Mom's age, hmm, so for you young people, I know, I am "old as dirt". I am being very kind when I say this... When you quote yourself, and then answer yourself, what you are actually doing is arguing and/or having a conversation with yourself...
I break it down more-
Picture it this way, If you see someone walking down the street in a real fight with themselves, in other words, beating the crap out of themselves...What will be your immediate reaction? Yes, cross the street and get as far away from this person. That is what you are doing when you are replying to your own postings and why another poster pointed that out to be real annoying and strange.

Hint: It is alright to sit back, read and learn from topics without adding anything to the conversation.

PS: Fierce_Elite, in your first post, you said that you did not have much experience with the Big Gym-Small Gym argument, so stop fighting with yourself and just learn from those around you and then form your own opinion. Just Sayin':fro:

 

[Fierce_Elite]

Hey Fierce_Elite, I have the feeling that I am quite a bit older than you, probably your Mom's age, hmm, so for you young people, I know I am "old as dirt". I am being very kind when I say this... When you quote yourself, and then answer yourself, what you are actually doing is arguing and/or having a conversation with yourself...I break it down more-
Picture it this way, If you see someone walking down the street in a real fight with themselves, What is your immediately reaction? Yes, cross the street and get as far away from this person. That is what you are doing when you are replying to your own postings.
PS: It is alright to sit back, read and learn from topics without adding anything to the conversation.
Fierce_Elite, in your first post, you said that you did not have much experience with the Big Gym-Small Gym argument, so stop fighting with yourself and just learn from those around you and then form your own opinion. Just Sayin'

I still have the right to voice my opinions about it. Just as any does. But I do have experience in cheerleading and being judge in General. Age doesn't have anything to do with this. So no Idea why you brought that up.



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[Helen uk uni cheer]

One thing I just thought of is if an athlete is short or rude to you it may not be being rude entirley it could be down to nerves especially if they are about to meet their team for warm ups. I know that im very chatty and happy most of the time but when it comes to meeting my team for warm up or just before awards I can get cranky and a bit short yes I do appologise if im short but comps for are a big thing. Some parents feel the nerves instead of the kids but parents need to remember that they are always on show

 

[mollymags]

Between coaching and running events I get the pleasure of spending essentially weekend at cheerleading competitions. I deal with everyone- kids, parents, coaches. There's people who are sweet as pie at every gym, and bad eggs at probably every gym, too. I think the reason that it seems like the "big gyms" are rude is that there's simply so many more of them walking around an event than there are people from a specific small gym. If Super Mega Allstars shows up with 600 kids and Pint Size Elite shows up with 30, that's 20x the amount of people for you to have a chance negative encounter with from the big gym.


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[Pebbles49]

I have not. Then again, I never really communicated with anyone outside of my old gym. That's the main reason, to avoid drama. I think a lot of times gyms in general, but especially big gyms, start being mean and rude because they got fame inside of their heads. They also want people to be intimidated of them. I love intimidation, but not when it's being rude and harassing other gyms. It should just be fun competition, this is not the Olympics. As an individual, more than likely, you're not super rich just from doing this sport and you're not on the news channels 9/10. Like what I'm saying is, no gym or cheerleading team are true celebrities, they don't have tabloids following them around. Like there is no reason to be rude to anyone, when one day a gym could come through and take whatever title that team has. Good sportsmanship is always a must. At CEA, if we weren't showing good sportsmanship and another coach had to talk to our coach, there be some hardcore conditioning the next practice.


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Yes, you have the right to respond to any and all postings, but in your first posting on the topic, within the first 3 words you told us you had very little life experience to justify a relevant response to the Big Gym-Small Gym question that the OP opposed. The fact that you have little experience, which the topic requires... Then it is hard for you to relate to rudeness on any level concerning Big Gym and Small Gym, however, unless, you turn the question to relate it more to how Cheerleaders from Big Gym related to Cheerleaders from Small Gym, I am pretty sure you probably have a wealth of relevant information on this topic...:chestbump:

 

[Official OWECheer]

To be honest, the opposite had happened to me. Last year at several small regional competitions, I experienced people who were downright mean and rude to me because I had big gym clothing and carrying my daughter's bag... At 1 competition, I distinctly remember this 1 woman who refused to allow me to sit down and deliberately put clothes into multiple empty seats knowing that I wanted to sit down for a moment to watch a performance (I desperately explained that I will move when her party gets back, but she refused to allow me to sit down) and when I was walking away to look for another seat, she loudly started talking trash about my Big Gym...
Unfortunately, sometimes being a member of a Big Gym opens us up to a form of bullying from Small Gym, and I learned that no matter what, outsiders will always side with the underdog, Small Gym...JMO

Jealousy, perhaps?

 

[12stepCheermom]

Between coaching and running events I get the pleasure of spending essentially weekend at cheerleading competitions. I deal with everyone- kids, parents, coaches. There's people who are sweet as pie at every gym, and bad eggs at probably every gym, too. I think the reason that it seems like the "big gyms" are rude is that there's simply so many more of them walking around an event than there are people from a specific small gym. If Super Mega Allstars shows up with 600 kids and Pint Size Elite shows up with 30, that's 20x the amount of people for you to have a chance negative encounter with from the big gym.


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This is a great point. Because I truly believe the demographics of all gyms are the same and we've been in a small, medium and large program. There's no significant difference in the personalities (kids or parents) at any of them.


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[catlady]

Geez, I promise I only let cp's Grammy come to one competition. I'd like to apologize to any cheerleader, parent, light guy, music guy, judge, security, Dippin' Dot guy, Pizza guy, bow guy, photographer, that she may have encountered on that day. With that said, we all have those days we could have used an extra shot of prune juice....ok, so I probably should have been nicer to the guy who kept whacking me in the head with his backpack while I was sitting in the row ahead of him...

 

[cheernerd5678]

I still have the right to voice my opinions about it. Just as any does. But I do have experience in cheerleading and being judge in General. Age doesn't have anything to do with this. So no Idea why you brought that up.



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Right to free speech =/= being exempt from reactions or consequences. Right to free speech is not extended to you and only you, it's everyone. Nobody is saying that you can't post. They're just having discussions and voicing their own opinions, but for whatever reason when they disagree your only response is that you have a right to say it. We know you have a right to say it. We have a right to agree, disagree, or ignore you completely. Welcome to the internet


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[Cheer Dad]

Right to free speech =/= being exempt from reactions or consequences. Right to free speech is not extended to you and only you, it's everyone. Nobody is saying that you can't post. They're just having discussions and voicing their own opinions, but for whatever reason when they disagree your only response is that you have a right to say it. We know you have a right to say it. We have a right to agree, disagree, or ignore you completely. Welcome to the internet


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Way a minute, when I post something people can disagree or ignore me? WTH, why didn't anyone tell me?


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