- May 16, 2011
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This past weekend my program attended a Varsity sanctioned event held here in Chicago, IL by American Championship. It is a summit bid competition. I am a very realistic coach and I and don't sugar coat things for my athletes if a team is better than I will say that they are and that they deserved to win. So I'm not here saying that I think my team should have won but I am saying there is some SERIOUS issues going on with EPs Judging and just the future of Allstar cheerleading.
The overall feel that I got from other coaches and gym owners was that there was something going on with the judging. A team in one of my teams divisions was scoring like a tenth or two higher than my team in standing tumbling which I didn't understand cause skill for skill my team out tumbles that team so I went through the proper channels filled out the form so here we are four hours later and after checking back 3 times I finally received a text from the judge to report to the judges stand so me and my co coach went and talked to the guy he proceeded to tell us that he didnt really agree with the judging and would talk with the judges and see what he can do so another hour passed and i finally got another texr so we went back to the judges stand where we where informed that our inquiry had been passed onto someone else when I asked to speak to her I was told she was in the bathroom so then like 20 mins past and I asked again if she was back yet and they said oh she's headed back another 20-25 mins past at this point Im really annoyed cause my team goes into warmups in 45 mins and I had been dealing with this for almost 6 hours. So the lady finally comes and gives me every excuse in the book as of to why they scored the way they did which none of it made since and after I lay out skill for skill she couldn't really give me any more excuses and just shrugged her shoulders at this point the guy I originally talked to enters into the situation and after going back and forth with him he proceeds to tell me verbatim "you are back here fighting for only a tenth of a point". At that point I lost it and walked off..a tenth of point...my team took second to the team I was questioning just a few weeks ago by only .03 and here we are with a zero deduction routine they had a stunt fall two tumbling touch downs and even with their deductions they are still beating us by almost a point and a half! I'm still really upset about this!
There where also instances where a team with no dance (like finished pyramid music stopped and team left the stage) scored higher than teams with a dance. They told my senior three team they liked their one and half twist to prone dismounts (ummm you can't do anything past one twist in any level 3 skill) I heard that a teams raw score on day 2 was two points higher than it was on day 1 and of course that team went on to receive a summit bid! A team was allowed to go 3 hours later after their division was finished. It just amazes me the lack of clarity and full discloser on EPs and Judges. The "well its subjective" just isn't going to cut it anymore!!!
The overall feel that I got from other coaches and gym owners was that there was something going on with the judging. A team in one of my teams divisions was scoring like a tenth or two higher than my team in standing tumbling which I didn't understand cause skill for skill my team out tumbles that team so I went through the proper channels filled out the form so here we are four hours later and after checking back 3 times I finally received a text from the judge to report to the judges stand so me and my co coach went and talked to the guy he proceeded to tell us that he didnt really agree with the judging and would talk with the judges and see what he can do so another hour passed and i finally got another texr so we went back to the judges stand where we where informed that our inquiry had been passed onto someone else when I asked to speak to her I was told she was in the bathroom so then like 20 mins past and I asked again if she was back yet and they said oh she's headed back another 20-25 mins past at this point Im really annoyed cause my team goes into warmups in 45 mins and I had been dealing with this for almost 6 hours. So the lady finally comes and gives me every excuse in the book as of to why they scored the way they did which none of it made since and after I lay out skill for skill she couldn't really give me any more excuses and just shrugged her shoulders at this point the guy I originally talked to enters into the situation and after going back and forth with him he proceeds to tell me verbatim "you are back here fighting for only a tenth of a point". At that point I lost it and walked off..a tenth of point...my team took second to the team I was questioning just a few weeks ago by only .03 and here we are with a zero deduction routine they had a stunt fall two tumbling touch downs and even with their deductions they are still beating us by almost a point and a half! I'm still really upset about this!
There where also instances where a team with no dance (like finished pyramid music stopped and team left the stage) scored higher than teams with a dance. They told my senior three team they liked their one and half twist to prone dismounts (ummm you can't do anything past one twist in any level 3 skill) I heard that a teams raw score on day 2 was two points higher than it was on day 1 and of course that team went on to receive a summit bid! A team was allowed to go 3 hours later after their division was finished. It just amazes me the lack of clarity and full discloser on EPs and Judges. The "well its subjective" just isn't going to cut it anymore!!!
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