OT New Random Thread Pt. 3

[crazzyeyesassypants]

What is she gonna do? Call the authoritues in a different state and hsve then go to her hoise and tell her to stop? Realistically I can't imagine the authorities caring that a little girls tweets are hurting people's feelings. And trying to sue a minor is probably tricky so no use in doing that. Public humiliation would be the best bet.

Actually cyber bulling is a crime so she should have gotten them involved or at least tried. We don't know if the police would have done anything or not if you don't get them involved. I don't think it would have hurt her to try.
Guess that's one of the first things I would have tried, I would have tried to contact gym, parents and police first if they didn't do anything THEN I would have shouted from the roof top if it continued.

I know I'm not in CSP shoes and I can't guarantee that I would have also snap the same way she did after all the abuse her family and gym gets but an adult fighting with kids seems wrong to me. Two adults fighting that's a different story. lol


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[Eyes On The Prize]

Actually cyber bulling is a crime so she should have gotten them involved or at least tried. We don't know if the police would have done anything or not if you don't get them involved. I don't think it would have hurt her to try.
Guess that's one of the first things I would have tried, I would have tried to contact gym, parents and police first if they didn't do anything THEN I would have shouted from the roof top if it continued.

I know I'm not in CSP shoes and I can't guarantee that I would have also snap the same way she did after all the abuse her family and gym gets but an adult fighting with kids seems wrong to me. Two adults fighting that's a different story. lol


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I still don't think it would be been worth her time. She'd probably have to show the tweets were causing her emotional distress to even get the case take seriously, which they probably weren't. It was more of an annoyance than anything. And again, an adult suing a minor probably doesn't work out too well for the adult.

 

[C*A-Shelby K]

I'm just wondering how she figured all of this out! It's kind of scary if you think about it if she was able to find all the information out from an account not linked to personal info.

 

[crazzyeyesassypants]

I still don't think it would be been worth her time. She'd probably have to show the tweets were causing her emotional distress to even get the case take serioudly, which they probably weren't. It was more of an annoyance than anything. And again, an adult suing a minor probably doesn't work out too well for the adult.

There has been cases were parents of the cyber bully were held accountable for their kids actions, IF she didn't get them involved guess we will never know if it would have been worth her time. At the end of the day CSP did what she felt was right for her gym and her family but since it was done so publicly now we all have opinions about it lol.

I noticed a lot of the kids that get cyber bullied have public accounts, why not make their accounts private? I get that kids want to be kids and to be silly, vent and just post inside jokes but if you don't want anons taking those inside jokes with your team in a bad way why let them into your lives by having a public account?
I don't know if the girl from coed had a public account but if her account was private maybe the anons wouldn't have access to it, I didn't even think her post was that bad, the girl was probably just trying to be funny for her friends but since it got out everyone had an opinion about it, when things are made public everyone wants to chime in and talk about it.


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[kristenthegreat]

Cyber bullying is now a crime, yes, but what most people forget about these types of crimes (along with things like sexual assault) is that life isn't Law and Order SVU. There's no Olivia Benson there to lead the way, and if there was it takes a LONG time for this stuff to get taken care of. Heck, it took 4 YEARS of Jared Fogel molesting CHILDREN and talking about it on wire for them to arrest him. What are they gonna do about Bad Billy in Butte? Barely anything, if that. Do you honestly think these adults suddenly in charge of these new divisions REALLY know all about how the internet works and all these accounts? Not so much. As for letting the parents know- Ethan Couch's mother threw him a GOING AWAY PARTY before they fled to Mexico to avoid his probation officer after he was caught on video drinking. She's at the top of the horrible list, but she's far from alone.

Sometimes, unfortunately, the swiftest and only justice is vigilante justice. Numbers were probably too far, but if she wants it changed she now has to talk to someone about WHY she wants it changed. And that might actually force her to tell her parents what happened.

 

[catlady]

My only fear in people taking matters into their own hands is source reliability and in this case, it appears the source was reliable so, kudos if this stops the nonsense. With that said, who is to say a kid won't open an anonymous account, throw shade and then blame another person as the abuser and another innocent party becomes a victim. I certainly don't have the answer but, I tend to tell my kids that responding or following these anonymous accounts is what feeds the beast. I haven't looked at my cp's accounts to see if they follow any of these anonymous accounts but, I will be asking them to delete, and refrain from following them going forward. If we truly want to stop the drama, then we have to stop watching and reading it from the sidelines, as well.

 

[DancerDude0118]

I'm just wondering how she figured all of this out! It's kind of scary if you think about it if she was able to find all the information out from an account not linked to personal info.

I was literally just about to bring this up... is no one else wondering how she magically had the ability to identify these anonymous accounts?

 

[crazzyeyesassypants]

Here is a good website to keep handy if you ever feel the need to report someone of cyber bullying, it has the laws for each state.
Policies & Laws | StopBullying.gov

Well at the end of the day I really hope what CSP did works and that horrid anons stop, even though I don't agree with the way it was handled I think we can all agree that something need it to be done!



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[flcheermom]

I was literally just about to bring this up... is no one else wondering how she magically had the ability to identify these anonymous accounts?

My guess is someone told her. I could be wrong. Just guessing. Someone always knows someone who knows someone. Kids/people talk, brag - whatever you want to call it and usually tell at least one person what they are up to at some point. Someone usually knows the person behind the anon twitters - they usually talk whether they meant to out themselves or not.

 

[MomMomMamaMom]

My guess is someone told her. I could be wrong. Just guessing. Someone always knows someone who knows someone. Kids/people talk, brag - whatever you want to call it and usually tell at least one person what they are up to at some point. Someone usually knows the person behind the anon twitters - they usually talk whether they meant to out themselves or not.

In many ways, I imagine this to be part of the point she was trying to make... That the connectedness of the industry is infallible. I feel like that part was a valid point. I just wish it had been made with a bit more finesse, or without threatening overtones maybe?

 

[632_beans]

Can they really be anonymous? IP addresses can be traced. They're registered to someone, right?


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[SmileCat]

Story time:
The first time I ever encountered an anon page, was back when Facebook just starting getting popular in my area, like 2009. Someone at my high school created a 'Burn Book' page and would post peoples pictures and write nasty things and even set up a Formspring account so people could anonymously suggest who to burn and what to say.
At first, people got a kick out of it because it was usually aimed at the 'popular' kids, who everyone loved to hate. The kids being picked on, didn't have a problem with it and we all assumed it was them behind it anyway.
A few weeks late, the page posted a picture of a girl and accused her of some pretty bad things, which led to her Mom posting on the page almost within the lines of what CSP is doing. Saying she's getting the cops involved, and posting inappropriate pictures of the people who were suspected to be behind the page, which wasn't really who was behind it (and that caused a whole bunch of more drama).
Kids at my school were angry at what this girls mom was posting and calling her immature and saying she needed to get a life, ect.
In the end, the cops and the school found out who it was and it was revealed who (a sophomore no one even knew). The girl deleted the page, her personal page, wrote apologies to everyone and was either suspended or her parents took her out for a semester (too many rumors to be sure). After all of that, students began to realize how cruel the page actually was and saw how much drama it caused and was glad the girl was outed and it was deleted.
Of course it sucked for the girl who was behind it because no one wanted to be her friend, people talked about her and was the butt of the jokes during homecoming skit night that year. But eventually, she came back to school, lived a normal life, people forgave her and people pretty much forgot about it.

Granted, this incident happened on a very different scale, but I'm with CSP. Would I have posted her phone number? No. Would I keep posting the names of who is behind the mean anon pages? Yes. They need to learn their lesson. You can have the pages deleted a million times, but the owner will just make a million and one pages.

 

[krystynakrez]

I know I never tweeted things of that nature but if anyone had posted my phone number on twitter I would be pissed. There's some things that just don't need to be shared publicly.

 

[kristenthegreat]

Story time:
The first time I ever encountered an anon page, was back when Facebook just starting getting popular in my area, like 2009. Someone at my high school created a 'Burn Book' page and would post peoples pictures and write nasty things and even set up a Formspring account so people could anonymously suggest who to burn and what to say.
At first, people got a kick out of it because it was usually aimed at the 'popular' kids, who everyone loved to hate. The kids being picked on, didn't have a problem with it and we all assumed it was them behind it anyway.
A few weeks late, the page posted a picture of a girl and accused her of some pretty bad things, which led to her Mom posting on the page almost within the lines of what CSP is doing. Saying she's getting the cops involved, and posting inappropriate pictures of the people who were suspected to be behind the page, which wasn't really who was behind it (and that caused a whole bunch of more drama).
Kids at my school were angry at what this girls mom was posting and calling her immature and saying she needed to get a life, ect.
In the end, the cops and the school found out who it was and it was revealed who (a sophomore no one even knew). The girl deleted the page, her personal page, wrote apologies to everyone and was either suspended or her parents took her out for a semester (too many rumors to be sure). After all of that, students began to realize how cruel the page actually was and saw how much drama it caused and was glad the girl was outed and it was deleted.
Of course it sucked for the girl who was behind it because no one wanted to be her friend, people talked about her and was the butt of the jokes during homecoming skit night that year. But eventually, she came back to school, lived a normal life, people forgave her and people pretty much forgot about it.

Granted, this incident happened on a very different scale, but I'm with CSP. Would I have posted her phone number? No. Would I keep posting the names of who is behind the mean anon pages? Yes. They need to learn their lesson. You can have the pages deleted a million times, but the owner will just make a million and one pages.

Geez, my middle school was ahead of the curve. We had our burn book in 8th grade. Granted I never saw it, but I'm sure I was in it #teamquirky

To what someone else said: you have to wonder how much of these kids are shooting themselves in the foot with the info themselves (meaning CSP doesn't have to dig at all). It's very likely she gave her number to someone as a way to get more drama or 'cred', which in turn is how CSP got it. Or she posted it herself online. There was that one anon troll I dug into once, and it took me less than 5 minutes to guess (with what I believe to be PRETTY strong accuracy) her real name, hometown, place of work, etc. And I didn't even use an ISP tracker- she laid it all out in little bits across the page and in the words she said. You give away a LOT without realizing.

ETA: Meant to post this earlier. I did a line of pixie stick once on a dare, because my friend said he'd do it after. I was 18, and in my honors program in college. Stupid happens longer than we'd like to admit.

 

[notyourcheermom]

I was literally just about to bring this up... is no one else wondering how she magically had the ability to identify these anonymous accounts?

My twitter name is three letters and one number. I just went to Pipl and typed in my username only and I was the fourth thing to pop up on Pipl. Someone may know someone, etc, too.

Notyourcheermom returned zero hits!

Also ETA: I am friends with probably 25 parents from Fierceboard to Facebook, too, fun times. Not like I am truly anon on here or need to be. I always keep in mind the whatever I say can be printed and marked as an exhibit and I can be cross examined on rule in mind when typing! Just interesting my Twitter username brought me right up and my Fierceboard username brought up zero.