All-Star Cheerleaders Season 3?

[Cheeranswers]

i seriously am dumbfounded as to how this is even an issue... i can see the kids being a little upset (because they're kids) but as a coach, especially of a team that has had MULTIPLE people leave, should you not be prepared for things like this? i mean, you have alternates for a reason don't you?.. this happens all the time and instead of them making a huge deal about it and bashing the kids, their time and energy would probably be better suited to look at the issues and figuring out why so many kids are leaving. if they have had so many kids quit, maybe its time to start self reflecting.

i dont blame dylan in even the slightest. we've talked about this before, but cheerleading is a business. if customers aren't happy, they should have the right to leave without feeling bullied. he was paying (I'm assuming) for california allstars services, and if he didnt like it, why should he continue paying? this kid moved across the country to be on a high calibre team for his last senior eligible year. if he's not liking what he's paying for, all the power to him to find somewhere he does. I'm happy he found CEA and i hope his last year has a lot of success!

 

[getsum]

This would explain why that one boy decided it would be better to LIE about his parents not signing the release form over just saying he didn't want to cheer. I don't watch the show but threatening a 17 year old with a legit Visa with deportation sounds like harassment to me, which equals bullying behavior.

which 17 year old was thteatened with deportation?

 

[Cheermom1969]

I don't know... did anyone really bash him on the episode. I don't know maybe because I am from New York, but I don't think anyone said anything really offensive on the show anyway.

Maybe on twitter, sure, but I wouldn't know. I don't have time for that lol.

I didn't see Eddie or Orby bashing him in the episode either. I thought they were pretty measured in what they said. But what do I know?

 

[FlexyTumblerMom]

I don't know... did anyone really bash him on the episode. I don't know maybe because I am from New York, but I don't think anyone said anything really offensive on the show anyway.

Maybe on twitter, sure, but I wouldn't know. I don't have time for that lol.

He was *extremely* bashed in that episode. They made it appear as though he up and left the team high and dry w/ no warning, no explanation, and for no good reason at all. They made it seem like he was an ingrate for not appreciating what an honor it was to be "featured" in a SMOED routine. They even blamed him for why they had to cut poor Jessica - the girl who gave up Berkeley for her life's dream of being on Smoed!

My bet is that most of the flack Dylan may get from "Smoed groupies" will be from those that aren't all star cheerleaders themselves. Most serious cheerleaders/dancers/gymnasts know what it's like to want to leave a team situation that isn't working out for you, and will wish Dlyan well. I know my CP does.

 

[SL&AM]

which 17 year old was thteatened with deportation?

Dylan and that info comes from the other thread.

 

[Obsessive Cheer]

This post is not directed at anyone here in particular but rather to state the truth, the facts so everyone can see the real way things played out & just how badly CA, Smoed team members & staff behaved & are clearly still behaving badly....disgusting.

As many of you know I am Dylan's father, some of you may have seen my post the week Dylan left Smoed. I apologize for the length of this post & if it is a bit disjointed but I am really annoyed & there is a lot of mis-info that needs correcting. Yes, there are 2 sides to every story but the new episode I have just seen is more than loaded with absolute BS.

Dylan has remained professional throughout all this drama, the same can't be said about his so called friends & coaching staff at Smoed. Regardless of age when you are on a semi professional sports team you should be conducting yourself in the appropriate manner as you are in the public spotlight. To say I am extremely disappointed in CA, the team (past & present) & staff is a massive understatement!
I made a statement here to clear things up at the time & also chose to remain silent about the real reasons he left. After seeing the episode 'Dylans Story' (which is not his story at all!) I will not remain silent any more!
The Cheeleaders show was only part of the reason he left. He didn't mind the cameras etc but when the producers asked him about how his long distance relationship with his girlfriend was going (they wanted him to talk about it) & he told them that they had broken up the producers said lets just pretend you are still together & talk about it. Talk about a long distance relationship that doesn't exist, really?! WTF? It was hard enough on him breaking up with his girlfriend & they wanted him to pretend they were still together just for the show, disgusting!!! And yes they constantly tell them what they want them to say to camera!

Eddie, Orby & several of the team (past & present) went to Europe & left the team to have tumbling practice only the entire time. The tumbling coach told Dylan he doesn't need any tumbling practice, so what does he do? Sit around with his fingers up his butt waiting for them to come back?! Then there were more breaks while Eddie & Orby traveled around the USA.
Everyone on the team who had been there for more than a year was telling Dylan that Smoed had never had so many breaks...ever! Just how does that prepare you for comp? He tried to talk to them on a few occasions however they were always either 'too busy' or said come see me at next practice & then were too busy or unavailable.
I had a lot of contact with Eddie prior to Dylan leaving New Zealand & was told the day he left that he would call me after meeting with Dylan at his first practice the day he got to California (Dylan flew 11500 kms/19 hours, landed in LA around midnight then went straight to the gym the next day after minimal sleep) The phone call from Eddie never happened!
Then Eddie continued to ignore every message, email & call I made to him until Dylan quit then he called me like 10 times in 6 hours. He was in panic mode! To not reply to my messages, emails & calls is just extremely rude to say the least. I don't care how busy he was or who he is he should of replied. Not cool.

Then there was the issue of Dylan's stunt group....his two female bases cut after camp & not being replace immediately. Then when they were replace it was with 2nd & 3rd choice bases that were just not cutting it & didn't have the skills. This caused Dylan to have to 'carry' his stunt group, doing most of the lifting & stabilizing of his flyer which caused him to injure both his shoulders (rotator cuff tears) which caused a severe weakness in his strength with constant sever pain every time he lift his arms above his head which he had to just suck up & carry on. This could of been a career ending injury had I not addressed it. (I have a background & years of experience in personal training & injury rehabilitation so I know how bad it was)

For Jessica to say that she was taken into Eddies office & told she was being replaced then blaming it on Dylan leaving is damn ridiculous! She shouldn't of been there in the first place, she doesn't have the skills, just look at her jumps in the episode they are not very good at all.
Apparently being welcomed into the brotherhood 'for life' means only as long as you are on the team Lol

I had to laugh at Eddies comment 'I feel like I did something wrong' ahhhhh you did Eddie! Focus on the team, not traveling the world & USA promoting yourself! The height of cockiness & arrogance I feel. And then 'we don't recruit from other teams mid season, that's not ethical' Lol Whatever! They have done exactly that in the past & this year too!
Dylan knew that they would never let him leave without a fight from past knowledge of what happened to Jenee & his room mate Tyler. That is why he left the way he did. Both Tyler & Dylan were the first 2 selected for the team, both world champions already (USASF & ICU) & both got nothing but high praise from everyone at CA....until they left then they both get slagged off. Leaving Smoed is like quitting a gang or the mafia, they will come after you if you leave on your own accord unless you are cut, kicked out or age out. The arrogance within the team is terrible. Everyone is nice to your face then totally the opposite behind your back!
I am sure Gabi leaving because she missed her family was just a feeble excuse to get out with being crucified. Then she starts cheering for another team a month or so later. When athletes of this caliber leave it should tell you as a coach that something is not right within the coaching staff and/or team, you do not go about attacking them & trying to destroy them!

There was also kids turning up to training high & the coaches knew & didn't seem to care one bit! Very professional....NOT! Some have medical marijuana cards.

The one thing they got right in that episode is there was no one in the team as strong as Dylan when it comes to his all round skill level & fitness level. For months Dylan watched as others were throwing up during training, Eddie would push them all hard & Dylan wouldn't. Then he started pushing them harder until Dylan threw up too & would then say 'now we are getting somewhere'. Dylan could handle anything that was thrown at him, no problem. Some of the hardest practices they had had Eddie commenting on Dylan's instagram that Dylan did great 'Good job' also commenting on his own instagram just how good Dylan was.
After Dylan quit Eddie sent me an email threatening to have Dylan deported etc, something he could not do. Tannaz also threatened not to release Dylan but in was still October not November so they had no hold over him. They were grasping at straws.
For the record I was the one who organised all Dylan's visa documents & organised it all, not CA, not Eddie like he makes out. They did provide supporting letters for the visa application from themselves & the host family but so would any other gym! I spent 3 weeks living on 5 hours sleep working 17-18 hours a day fundraising & getting all the necessary documents together etc not them.

Everyone probably saw the twitter & instagram posts from past & present team members & coaches indirectly slagging Dylan off. And you probably saw Orby's post about being called a bully, Dylan never called anyone a bully...that was me in my email response to Eddies deportation threats etc.

I am going to post a link to the emails, hate message pic sent to Dylan & Tannaz response. For the record there was never any apology as she says there would be in the email. I love how in Eddies email how he constantly mention that they are a 3 x world champion team, SO WHAT! Arrogance much?! Eddie wouldn't know the high road if it bit him on the arse!

To say I am disgusted with the behavior from both team members & staff as well as the producers of Cheerleaders is an understatement. I have all the messages from twitter & instagram saved as screen shots because I knew they would delete them

If anyone was stabbed in the back it was Dylan.

So here you all go.......

 

[KayleighCoco]

I really dont know what to say to all that

other than i really hope Dylan is happy at CEA!

.....and thank god i didnt go to bed when I was originally planning too....

 

[azune]

Omg. Speechless about those emails. Disgusting.

 

[Obsessive Cheer]

I really dont know what to say to all that

other than i really hope Dylan is happy at CEA!

.....and thank god i didnt go to bed when I was originally planning too....

He is more than happy in NC & CEA

 

[KayleighCoco]

He is more than happy in NC & CEA

Good to hear! Sounds like he deserves it after all that!

 

[mamabear]

I am so incredibly sorry that your family is going through this.

 

[Obsessive Cheer]

i seriously am dumbfounded as to how this is even an issue... i can see the kids being a little upset (because they're kids) but as a coach, especially of a team that has had MULTIPLE people leave, should you not be prepared for things like this? i mean, you have alternates for a reason don't you?.. this happens all the time and instead of them making a huge deal about it and bashing the kids, their time and energy would probably be better suited to look at the issues and figuring out why so many kids are leaving. if they have had so many kids quit, maybe its time to start self reflecting.

i dont blame dylan in even the slightest. we've talked about this before, but cheerleading is a business. if customers aren't happy, they should have the right to leave without feeling bullied. he was paying (I'm assuming) for california allstars services, and if he didnt like it, why should he continue paying? this kid moved across the country to be on a high calibre team for his last senior eligible year. if he's not liking what he's paying for, all the power to him to find somewhere he does. I'm happy he found CEA and i hope his last year has a lot of success!

Dylan was asked by Eddie at worlds this year before he even won ICU worlds to try out & was the first boy selected & told his tryout video was the best they had ever seen. CA was covering training costs (their idea & prerogative to do so because of his talent & skills) because straight after a trip to worlds we couldn't afford to cover it all. Regardless of that he has the right to leave if he wasn't happy and they were not fulfilling their coaching obligations, he didn't sign anything saying he would stay the entire season or anything like that. He never imagined that he would go anywhere else at all till he was going to come home & a mutual friend at CEA heard about it. The reason he chose to stay & move to NC was because Coed Elite are in a different division & will not compete against Smoed etc.

 

[Eyes On The Prize]

My, my. Well, this sure got a heck of a lot more interesting. :enjoyshow:

ETA: I'm glad I decided to forgo cable. This is more drama than I could ever hope for in a TV show.

 

[HeatUniqueJ]

My, my. Well, this sure got a heck of a lot more interesting.

too interesting, it's 2:02 am here and i'm stuck here because of my stalkerish nosiness

 

[SoAena]

too interesting, it's 2:02 am here and i'm stuck here because of my stalkerish nosiness

Glad it's not just me...