Adapting To The New Music Rules

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  1. Sully Gondron

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    We hope everyone is adapting to the music rules with an open mind. It is a headache now for both the teams and the music mixers because its all new to most of us. Once you educate yourself on the rules and why they are in place.... it all makes sense.

    This is what I tell our clients. If you are in doubt on whether the music rules apply to you and your squad, play it safe! Use the covers! Its more expensive, BUT can save you time and money by complying to the law.

    We are adapting just like everyone else, and it feels good to help answer questions.

    When you enjoy what you do....you never work a day in your life!

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    I wouldn't say using covers is playing it safe. Still have to have the permission of the copyright holders and publishers to alter their creation.
     
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    Well I should have said use the covers with licenses to play it safe!
     
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    Best bet is to avoid covers all together.
     
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    According to varsity as long as you use a cover by the preferred providers then they should have the licenses needed to use that cover
     
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    As long as you're not editing that cover....
     
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    The preferred companies such as unleash the beats gives you the right to edit it.
     
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    But do the publishers to the original work being covered provide license for edit? Everyone can do what suits them best, however, I highly recommend speaking with a copyright attorney before using (and editing/mixing) covers.
     
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    But do the publishers to the original work being covered provide license for edit? Everyone can do what suits them best, however, I highly recommend speaking with a copyright attorney before using (and editing/mixing) covers.
     
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    If varsity says it's good, I'm going to assume it's good. They seem well versed on it. At the end of the day they would sue varsity and not a public high school with zero money so I'd assume varsity is doinng what is needed in order to ensure they don't get sued. They are a multi billion dollar business
     
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    If you read the fine print on unleashthebeats.com, yes, they got the all appropriate approvals and the purchasing of the song on there website allows you to mix the song ONCE and even includes the "Full US Statutory Mechanical Rate for an additional 40 “copies” of each song so you can distribute copies to your client and its team members as reasonably needed".

    These are the same people who have been doing camp music for years, so I would think they are fully aware of all copyright laws.

    This is my stance. I coach a high school team that is not nationally competitive. I have Varsity's backing, USA Cheer stating that unleashthebeats is a preferred provider, and unleashthebeats giving me a license. If some mega music company wants to sue my little high school and and not Varsity or the actual unleashthebeats, they would have a PR nightmare on their hands.
     
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    You can edit the cover. Clearly states it in the license. You cannot however edit an original master recording...which is why cover music is being used for mixes.
     
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    Also, while I'm hear....

    At first I was under the impression anyone could buy covers and edit.... thats not the case. You HAVE to be a preferred provider, or your music will not be compliant. cheMIXtry is a preferred provider, and we had to sign documentation and submit invoice samples to USA Cheer to show we were giving correct advice and following the rules. Its strict! Its expensive! Its legal!
     
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    Anyone can be a music EDITOR provided the original or cover music was obtained from a preferred provider and includes the proper licenses and allowances to edit them. See Music Guidelines slide 11.

    The linked slide show above is extremely informative and if anyone is confused about the whys or hows, it does a great job breaking every aspect down.
     
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    We were told from the horses mouth that if we didn't take down a sample mix which has original music on our site, that we would be taken off of the preferred providers list, and that any mixes we created for clients would be "non-compliant" and that we should refund mixes. It was a misunderstanding on their part, but from what I gather from that experience is that anyone can get covers and licenses and edit them....but according to this encounter... you still wouldn't be in compliance since you didn't use a preferred provider music mixer.

    In all honesty, they still don't know whats going on and what is acceptable and unacceptable. Its a work in progress and we along with other music mixers will see more information and added details as time goes on.