Concerned Coach Vs Industry Etiquette

[flipmac]

This is a real world situation, but I will be vague in order to protect the parties involved

This problem from my point or view has a few levels so bare with me

'team spectacular' is now about to enter their 3rd season and currently has competed the last two season in a level which is IMO one too high for the skill level being thrown, I am basing this off that majority tumbling is the level below what is being competed, ie majority ro bhs, in a level 3 division, and maybe 15% - 20% at level. That was just an example. Also they are capable of dismounting stunts in the level competed, but all load in and transitions are one too two levels below.

This has for now just been an issue myself and staff have frowned upon, but said nothing and kept it too ourselves, even though we hear our same opinions muttered at competition by others.

'team spectacular' is now rumored to be moving UP yet another level. Again I confirmed this is rumor and my concern is pure hypothetical thus far.

Now to add the next level to this, and please keep in my the recent usasf kafuffle about appropriate skills and what not, the head coach and only coach to this team is ALSO a another event provider in my area. This person also runs credentialing, and is involved with IASF.

Where I am going with this is that many programs look up to this person and come to them for advice and I am becoming concerned that they will "monkey see monkey do" and push athletes to levels they are not only not going to be strong in, but struggle and risk injury.

Should this rumor become fact, I think I am going to have a hard time biting my tongue.

Looking for advice on what I as a completely independent person might be able to do

BlueCat

Andre

MissBee

kingston

ACEDAD

 

[BlueCat]

It is nearly impossible to control what level a coach chooses to put their team.

Is your concern that the team is trying things that are dangerously too hard for them or that their routines don't have level appropriate skills in them?

 

[MissBee]

Yup, sadly you can't keep a team from moving up to an inappropriate level. If you are concerned for the safety of the athletes (you see them doing things that are grossly dangerous/negligent) contact USASF and file a report. (If this were a HS team, you'd go to Jim Lord at AACCA). Sadly, that's really all you can do.
Since this person is also an EP, I simply would not attend any of their events.

 

[flipmac]

It is nearly impossible to control what level a coach chooses to put their team.

Is your concern that the team is trying things that are dangerously too hard for them or that their routines don't have level appropriate skills in them?

Dangerously too hard for them...

The skills they do currently are not done well execution wise, and making them harder is where I become concerned for the athletes...

I should also mention, that I suspect they are bumping up level purely "to be the first team" in that division...

Again, rumored, heresay, hypothetical

 

[flipmac]

"My belief is that credentialing is worth as much as a bicycle is to a fish. Credentialing is a way to cover your butt and say: look! I am credentialed! if anything happens.

The correct way to fix all these problems is a proper scoring with heavy deductions for skills thrown incorrectly.

As the scoring is in flux there isnt much that can be done about that right now.. or for your situation. I would say the best possible thing is public awareness of said gym. Literally thats about all you can do." kingston


This, unfortunety, sounds about right...

I just think its highly inappropriate it is that the only way something may change is some major injury or likewise to come from it... Knock on wood...

I do realize I am preaching to the choir...

 

[flipmac]

Yup, sadly you can't keep a team from moving up to an inappropriate level. If you are concerned for the safety of the athletes (you see them doing things that are grossly dangerous/negligent) contact USASF and file a report. (If this were a HS team, you'd go to Jim Lord at AACCA). Sadly, that's really all you can do.
Since this person is also an EP, I simply would not attend any of their events.

Should this come to fruition, I shall follow through... Here's hoping I don't feel obligated too

 

[cupieqt]

Nothing can be done. The USASF has proven they will not police the actions of gyms at their own event, much less concern themselves with small gyms in house policies and procedures.

 

[King]

In defense of the USASF there isn't much to be done to prevent someone from going into a level they shouldnt. It is un-policeable. But the EP's can make scoresheet changes and WHA-BAM!

 

[CricketCheerMom]

As a parent, I know so many people who just want their kids on Level 5 teams. They don't care. Sometimes, you just have to leave things like this up to the parents. I know my daughter has level 4 skills but she is on level 3 because it is safe! She is a level 3 flyer.