Kentucky Cheer Dismisses 4 Coaches Following Hazing Investigation

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  1. Cheeranswers

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    yeah athletes posting basket tosses saying “look I wasn’t naked!!” is super weird in my opinion. Just because you weren’t in that specific video, doesn’t mean it never happened. I believe 11 people said they saw it, including 1 coach who said she was aware it was happening, and 1 coach saying he physically saw them topless but looked away because he “wanted to believe it didn’t happen”

     
  2. coachrah

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    At the end of the day
    This parent is an education professional. More than likely schooled in all Title 9, Clery Act and whistleblower protection. Why is everyone assuming she is the only one who sounded the alarm? The report has several admissions by athletes. I am more concerned about the victim shaming. There is already no true reporting system in Cheer. No true penalties assessed by any kind of governing body. Why would anyone step forward with the internet blowing up with threats of this kind? And so the party continues. Whether this mother is “over involved” or not she is allowed to PARENT. She has exposed a culture that quite frankly is due for an overhaul. Not every person on that team is a Senior which just on the alcohol provision alone is a problem in the daily life of collegiate administration. Administration understands that 80% of sexual assaults and other “accidents”are alcohol related. Can every coach know what their athletes are doing 24/7? Nope. Can a coach discuss and present guidelines for a safe and compliant space and still get blindsided. Yup. There are multiple layers of liability. It is quite unnerving to coach with the “all eyes on “ from the social media lens but all the more logical to apply vigilance. But to suggest that this woman and her daughter need to fear retaliation from people who don’t understand compliance is a cultural problem. More than likely that she knows where the law affords her protection and additionally more likely she could care less that outsiders/insiders consider her the culpable party.
     
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    I've seen many posts stating the same even though the investigation reports differently. My thoughts on those posts: Most of us have witnessed incredibly talented and well liked people get fired for a momentary lapse in judgment, and that's what makes these types of situations so difficult. It's truly hard when people get it right 99.9999% of the time and then get taken down in that .0001% moment. It's really hard when traditions/chants/events have gone on for years, and then seemingly out of the blue, they hit the fan. More than anything, it's really hard for these athletes and alum to see these coaches get fired, ultimately, for their actions past and present.
     
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    She has made false claims before.
    When you so publicly play the games that you are playing (her recent Facebook posts) and you have taken down a well known and loved institution people are going to respond. The mother quite frankly is getting everything she asked for (not saying threats are acceptable but we all know what social media culture is like) and has set her adult daughter up for any harassment she is getting. The adult daughter now needs to speak up for herself or she will continue to be paired with her mother’s behavior.
     
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    I great friend who was on UK and USA team for many years is so upset at this accusation...........he strongly feels this is all BS. BUT it only takes one stupid wrong incident to cause an issue! But this mom has sued schools and daughter has had issues with multiple AS programs......
     
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    Here's my thing. If it had just been one person on the team saying all these things, I would be more likely to believe those calling BS. But since there were so many on the team that verified the accusations in the report, I'm much more likely to believe that.
     
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    Agreed.
    Heck, Williamson himself said something about seeing a girl doing a topless toss but not having his glasses on.
     
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    i could just think of a lot of scenarios as to how this went down. but i cant picture an entire team and whatever higher up coaching staff standing on a dock watching teammates coerce others into going nude and not stepping in. Kids goofing off while coaches step away, yes i could easily see this occurring for a split moment, but i just dont know...
     
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    I feel like as hard as it is to imagine, it’s definitely possible. It doesn’t take the strongest morals or athlete moral-building coaches to make a national championship team, sadly. I have no idea what the coaching staff at UK was like, but no one hasn’t to think for more than a moment for another example of coaches(in any sport, at any level) being great coaches but not such good role models.
     
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    Reading the report leaves me totally on the fence to be honest. I feel like they pushed the athletes into "confessions" per say, but what they did WAS wrong. It's all very strange. The timing of it all gives me an ick vibe, and that mom is just.... ugh. I have no words for a woman like that.

    My vote for a coach (since nobody asked) would be Emily Sawyer. You need someone to be an example? She's it. She's alumni, she's smart, knows cheer, and is clean and sober. I'm sure her actual career would get in the way, but let me dream ok.
     
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    Or Brian Elza since he knows the program. I know he is working for Varsity so total conflict of interest and his wife was also a former UK cheerleader. He sent plenty of kids into that program as a coach so I vote him or Kelly (can’t remember her last name from the show). I think she was coaching at ACE Birmingham at some point.
     
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    Ohhhh I actually didn’t even think of Brian Elza. I actually love that.
     
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    Hey y’all it’s been a minute- came back for this thread. Sad to hear this news for all involved. UK Cheer is such an incredible program filled with some of the most amazing athletes, coaches, and alumni I’ve been lucky enough to know throughout the years.

    My prediction for who will fill the coaching position:
    - Leighton Clarke head coach
    - Blake Johnson assistant coach

    Leighton is an obvious choice IMO. An alumni of the program, member of the Team USA coaching staff, with extensive experience working for Varsity. He’s basically Tony Nash’s right hand man and has worked with Jomo on V!Roc so I think the program would be in really good hands with him.

    If they’re looking for someone with experience running a spirit program- my dream would be to see either Tony Nash, Bill Mayo, or Darlene in that spot but I think it would be a tremendous loss for any of their programs if they uprooted to coach UK.