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[Just-a-Mom]

Let's be honest and call a spade a spade


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I learned (on here actually!) that this phrase is apparently racist and should not be used. Just pointing it out because I felt like a complete a$$ that day after I was jumped all over for saying it. (not sure why those same people didn't call you out on it since they are posting here) I legitimately never knew and have said this my whole life.

OK, I'll go back to reading.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

plus a dictionary

This made me laugh.

if I ban someone because they hate CEA

 

[Cheer Dad]

An opinion is an opinion. One shouldn't be attacked for it. Point blank. I'm done posting on this thread.

Also, It doesn't matter if an opinion is offensive or not. No one should be attacked for it.

PM me then about clarifying your response to me. I am confused over your wording on how a Muslim woman in full clothing (covered head to toe) is asking for rape.

 

[Keep_Believing]

I'm done posting on this thread.

You are done posting on this thread! Thank you!

 

[ErinS]

I learned (on here actually!) that this phrase is apparently racist and should not be used. Just pointing it out because I felt like a complete a$$ that day after I was jumped all over for saying it. (not sure why those same people didn't call you out on it since they are posting here) I legitimately never knew and have said this my whole life.

OK, I'll go back to reading.

I've used that figure of speech my entire life and I've never heard that it was racist. I just skimmed the Wikipedia for it.....I'm going to keep saying it. I'm over it all.

 

[Cheer Dad]

I've used that figure of speech my entire life and I've never heard that it was racist. I just skimmed the Wikipedia for it.....I'm going to keep saying it. I'm over it all.

Vaguely recall that thread. I do believe JAM was crucified for it. Wish I could recall the thread.

 

[MissCongeniality]

I've used that figure of speech my entire life and I've never heard that it was racist. I just skimmed the Wikipedia for it.....I'm going to keep saying it. I'm over it all.

Is It Racist To 'Call A Spade A Spade'? : Code Switch : NPR

It didn't start off with any racist meaning.

 

[ErinS]

Vaguely recall that thread. I do believe JAM was crucified for it. Wish I could recall the thread.

Well I missed that thread and I feel like she should not have been crucified.

Honestly I always thought it had something to do with the game of spades....reneging and what not.

Anyway. I don't care. Next I'm going to hear that "pot meets kettle" is racist as well. No. Don't have time for it.

Exits further discussion about it.

 

[Cheermom1969]

I've used that figure of speech my entire life and I've never heard that it was racist. I just skimmed the Wikipedia for it.....I'm going to keep saying it. I'm over it all.

OMG I love you! The oversensitivity of people just is driving me nuts.
I've used the term and, quite literally, imagine a spade. Like, hey, this is a spade in my hand. It's not a shovel. It's not a rake. It's a spade! Call it that!

 

[Weezy]

OMG I love you! The oversensitivity of people just is driving me nuts.
I've used the term and, quite literally, imagine a spade. Like, hey, this is a spade in my hand. It's not a shovel. It's not a rake. It's a spade! Call it that!

Oversensitivity is an understatement. The World has become too politically correct.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

Is It Racist To 'Call A Spade A Spade'? : Code Switch : NPR

It didn't start off with any racist meaning.

I don't know that I have ever heard that until recently.

White people use the phrase around me. Should I be retroactively offended?

 

[SharkDad]

Good article and I like the historical links but it doesn't link the phrase to the racial link of the word, it just gives one college professor's opinion. If we go that far then the world needs to rename that suit on the deck of playing cards. I sure hope we never get that far.

 

[MissCongeniality]

Good article and I like the historical links but it doesn't link the phrase to the racial link of the word, it just gives one college professor's opinion. If we go that far then the world needs to rename that suit on the deck of playing cards. I sure hope we never get that far.

I agree. And shhhhhh don't give any suggestions ... this country has far bigger things to worry about right now!

 

[ErinS]

Good article and I like the historical links but it doesn't link the phrase to the racial link of the word, it just gives one college professor's opinion. If we go that far then the world needs to rename that suit on the deck of playing cards. I sure hope we never get that far.

Re-enters discussion:

My friend Wikipedia says:

The phrase predates the use of the word "spade" as an ethnic slur against African Americans,[2] which was not recorded until 1928; however, in contemporary U.S. society, the idiom is often avoided due to potential confusion with the slur[4] or confusion with playing card references such as "black as the ace of spades".

 

[SharkDad]

Re-enters discussion:

My friend Wikipedia says:

The phrase predates the use of the word "spade" as an ethnic slur against African Americans,[2] which was not recorded until 1928; however, in contemporary U.S. society, the idiom is often avoided due to potential confusion with the slur[4] or confusion with playing card references such as "black as the ace of spades".

Exactly and that statement is pointing out that the phrase and the racial word are not related, just people trying to be careful.

the citation "[4]" is from a book about language myths. I'm not renaming my playing cards.