All-Star Twerk Ban

David said:

They will not pull up a vine video of you twerking to deny you admittance into grad school, and they shouldn't do it for a job either. What you do in your personal life IS and ALWAYS should be separate from you work life. They are two completely different things.

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if you think they don't look into your character and personal life prior, you're crazy. or maybe don't work anywhere that cares about their reputation. my facebook was always PG with pretty high security, but I was asked about things that they were alarmed with prior to being offered a full time job. work consumes a large part of your life and i am a direct reflection of them. i don't blame them 1 bit.

David said:

They will not pull up a vine video of you twerking to deny you admittance into grad school, and they shouldn't do it for a job either. What you do in your personal life IS and ALWAYS should be separate from you work life. They are two completely different things.

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Uhhhh not sure if you've ventured into the job market lately....

cheerKT said:

Uhhhh not sure if you've ventured into the job market lately....

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thank you.

cheerKT said:

Uhhhh not sure if you've ventured into the job market lately....

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Now this is on point.

personally i do have a problem with the amount of twerking vines (especially the 10 year olds), and i really do think its completely inappropriate, however i could be the only one but i have never watched a video and thought "oh my god they cheer at ____? wow that program looks terrible". i personally have never connected it to the gym, because normally it is in no way connected. i do think it looks extremely unclassy on the PERSON, but i personally feel it doesn't do anything to the gym (unless its filmed in the gym with an entire mini team twerking with their coach..) just my opinion though!

Pip22 said:

You're comparing apples and oranges here. Seeing as twerking originated in strip clubs, shimmying and twerking are not one of the same.
Do I have a problem with twerking? No, as I do it with my friends, but then again we're 21 and we don't film it for vine. Do I have a problem with my 9 year old cousin imitating me? Yes. It's just that step too far, especially when it gets a bit stripper pole like. I will say that there's also a few dance sections that I see at comp that I raise an eyebrow at, so it's not like twerking is the only awkward dance out, but it's good that someone's taking a stance and highlighting it as inappropriate.

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I don't see how the origin (which is debatable) invalidates my original point. Strippers also helped popularize the use of splits in some dances, and they regularly spread their legs in a variety of ways in their performances. Does that mean we have to consider a Bow & Arrow obscene? No, because it's important to focus on the context in which certain actions are being performed. A stripper in a club who puts her leg behind her head, or twerks, or spins around a pole, etc. within a strip club, with the intent of pleasing the patrons who go to the strip club, is in a considerably different context than a cheerleader putting her leg behind her head in a stunt sequence, or a group of friends getting together and twerking because they think it's a cool, fun dance/workout.

To me its not just the twerking in general. Its the songs they do it too, and music videos for those songs, the lyrics, etc. Way too over sexualized for underage girls. Sorry not sorry

mccracal said:

I don't see how the origin (which is debatable) invalidates my original point. Strippers also helped popularize the use of splits in some dances, and they regularly spread their legs in a variety of ways in their performances. Does that mean we have to consider a Bow & Arrow obscene? No, because it's important to focus on the context in which certain actions are being performed. A stripper in a club who puts her leg behind her head, or twerks, or spins around a pole, etc. within a strip club, with the intent of pleasing the patrons who go to the strip club, is in a considerably different context than a cheerleader putting her leg behind her head in a stunt sequence, or a group of friends getting together and twerking because they think it's a cool, fun dance/workout.

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I see where you're getting at, but I really do think that kids dropping it like its hot for likes from strangers on a social network is creepy. I'm no prude by any means at all but some of the kids posting are so good at it that it's quite disturbing. Maybe it's me, or the videos I've seen, or the girls I've seen twerk in person, but it's a VERY suggestive dance fad, one that I think can't really be compared to the likes of the splits, regardless of context. We'll agree to disagree.

hiimsabrina said:

To me its not just the twerking in general. Its the songs they do it too, and music videos for those songs, the lyrics, etc. Way too over sexualized for underage girls. Sorry not sorry

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And the outfits they do it in!
But seriously. Half the world doing it to "Don't drop that thun thun thun" when they don't even know what the song is about. Like what


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cheernerd5678 said:

And the outfits they do it in!
But seriously. Half the world doing it to "Don't drop that thun thun thun" when they don't even know what the song is about. Like what

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Exactly. I think it's bad enough that girls pull body positions in bathing suits. Young girls today are trying to grow up way too fast. (Just my opinion)

I like Cheer Athletics policy :

"If you wouldn't want an Itty Bitty Kitty seeing it, don't post it"

I think it's a bit over the top. It's ok for kids to shake their butts in uniform to risqué parts of music, but this is a problem. It's dancing. You might not like the way this specific dance looks- but I could argue that a heel stretch looks trashy bc we can see your spankies. I'll elaborate more later when I'm on the computer, but basically we allow fake hair, fake tans, skimpy uniforms and excessive makeup (none of which i'm saying is wrong) for years but this is a problem?

Jennie said:

I like Cheer Athletics policy :

"If you wouldn't want an Itty Bitty Kitty seeing it, don't post it"

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And on that note... If you wouldn't want your grandma seeing it, don't post it.

Pip22 said:

I see where you're getting at, but I really do think that kids dropping it like its hot for likes from strangers on a social network is creepy. I'm no prude by any means at all but some of the kids posting are so good at it that it's quite disturbing. Maybe it's me, or the videos I've seen, or the girls I've seen twerk in person, but it's a VERY suggestive dance fad, one that I think can't really be compared to the likes of the splits, regardless of context. We'll agree to disagree.

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Eh, I've seen a number of posts on places like Reddit where pictures of girls doing splits in a nonsexual context will get a considerable number of graphic, sexually explicit comments. In fact, those types of pictures (which seem perfectly ordinary and innocent to the cheer community) seem to attract way more sexual attention than twerking videos, which seem to generate comments more grounded in racism than sexuality.

I really do understand your concern, but I don't think making a blanket "twerk ban" does anything to solve the root of the problem. People can manage to sexualize anything and everything- and that leads to the larger privacy issue. If part of the goal of this is to protect children and gym image, then gym owners/parents should put a much larger focus on teaching their children how to use strict privacy settings in order to maintain as much control as they can over who can see their content.

xtremeteal4life said:

I think it's a bit over the top. It's ok for kids to shake their butts in uniform to risqué parts of music, but this is a problem. It's dancing. You might not like the way this specific dance looks- but I could argue that a heel stretch looks trashy bc we can see your spankies. I'll elaborate more later when I'm on the computer, but basically we allow fake hair, fake tans, skimpy uniforms and excessive makeup (none of which i'm saying is wrong) for years but this is a problem?

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Thus the need for the image policy being implemented.


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