All-Star Usasf/naccc Results Posted

[Deleted member 5411]

The rule only applies to competing. You can tryout and tumble without being released.

Then they should state that. That was what I was thinking was stupid. IF they mean they don't need releases to tryout, although for some reason there will now be a declared season they should spell it out. Loopholes do not breed consistancy and only breeds confusion.

 

[King]

But the way it is written it leaves way too much loopholes for individual interpretation for the gym's.
Do they say the season is over after Worlds? Do they say the season is over going by the letter of the rule, which would be May-May or Aug-Aug?
It seems the declaring of a season plays completely into the court of the "one gym per SEASON" rule. They can not use SEASON in one rule without using it in every instance occurring within thier chosen Season Calender Date. It is too inconsistant and some gyms will say "Susie needs a written release to tryout for Gym A" and some gyms will say "No she doesn't".
It makes no sense.

I honestly think you are over thinking this one. No one has a competition before August in the US, therefor this rule does not affect that. What else would it affect if ONLY matters for competing? There are not really any loopholes or anything?

 

[ultimatelegacy]

If the age grid changes to 6/9/12/15/18 doesn't this mean that any tiny, mini, youth, or junior team from the 10-11 (this) season can remain exactly the same for the 11-12 (next) season? That's crazy to think that no one will have to age up.

 

[Deleted member 15]

Then they should state that. That was what I was thinking was stupid. IF they mean they don't need releases to tryout, although for some reason there will now be a declared season they should spell it out. Loopholes do not breed consistancy and only breeds confusion.

During the meeting Les said they did not edit any proposal prior to the vote, but they would have to be clarified before being enacted.

 

[newcheerdad]

If there is a nerd contest, then I put my hat in the ring as well.

Them sounds like fighting words to me.

I'll raise the if-then statement with two stored procedures and a unix shell script.

 

[mollymags]

I honestly think you are over thinking this one. No one has a competition before August in the US, therefor this rule does not affect that. What else would it affect if ONLY matters for competing? There are not really any loopholes or anything?

it shouldn't effect anything else. it states that someone can only COMPETE with one gym per "season". everyone is overlooking the "compete" part and looking at the "one gym per season" part.

i actually think it's better that the "season" would start on august 31st. this gives anyone who's going to a new gym the chance to spend the summer making sure that their new home is a good fit for them. i understand that those summer months are important and that it still hurts a team when someone leaves, even in july or august. but if the "season" started in may, there's a chance that someone can go to a gym, find out that it's NOT a good fit, and then find that the gym won't release them. then you're stuck there for the rest of the year.

 

[King]

Them sounds like fighting words to me.

I'll raise the if-then statement with two stored procedures and a unix shell script.

No one likes a wannabe script kiddie.

 

[kristenthegreat]

I think I trump all. You can fight for saludictorian though.

10:30 pm is my new 1 AM, because for two seconds I swore this said saludictator.

 

[CGAcheer]

does anyone else wonder if the straight rides at level 1 would have turned out differently if that proposal was immediately preceded by the No tosses by tiny or mini regardless of level proposal? Instead of one being at the very beginning and the other being towards the end

 

[ECcheer]

So when is the final decision being made? Or is this the final one?

 

[kristenthegreat]

For reference (and because I'm extremely bored) I went through and made the following tallys on what I think most likely WILL pass and what I think MAYBE will pass (decision was based on at least 10% difference in votes. If these changes had a difference greater than 10% between Yes and No, they were WILL pass. If they got less than 10% difference, they got MAYBE. If they were contingent on a decision that was less than 10%, they were put in maybe with a notation).

WILL PASS:
#13- L4 Stunts that full-up to extended must be caught at 2 feet. (77.30% Yes AND 19.83% No)
#14- L4 Braced Inversions must have at least one person connected on each side of top person at prep or below. (60.34% Yes AND 35.78% No)
#15- L4 Tosses allow hitch-kick single full tosses (58.19% Yes AND 39.37% No)
#16 + #17- L5 Restricted tumbling is more limited in skills. No standing fulls, no full punch fulls, etc. (80.89% Yes AND 16.81% No; 80.11% Yes AND 17.67% No Respectively)
#18- L5 Restricted Tosses may not exceed 3 tricks (i.e. hitch kick full, kick double) (81.61% Yes AND 15.95% No)
#19- Crossovers- Limit by # of TEAMS athlete may compete on per day (70.26% Yes AND 28.74% No)
#20- Crossovers- Choice A with 2 teams (57.33%) Choice B with 3 teams (38.36%)
#23- Ethics: No Recruiting at competitions (84.48% Yes AND 14.51% No)
#24- Large Division Size Change (60.49% Yes AND 38.94% No)
#32- Change Coed Divisions (66.09% Yes AND 28.30% No)
#33- Change Coed Divisions to Format Shown (73.42% Yes AND 22.13% No)
#43- No Tosses in Tiny/Mini REGARDLESS of Level (69.25% Yes AND 28.88% No)
#46- Delete Semi (Which will happen anyway with the pass of 32/33) (56.03% Yes AND 38.22% No)
#49- An athlete may only cheer for ONE gym per USASF season unless released (A 'season' was defined by the previous item #48) (77.87% Yes AND 19.54% No)

MAYBE PASS:
#9- Modify Level 4.2 Age Range (48.42% Yes AND 49.71% No)
*#10- Modify Level 4.2 Age Range to 12-18 (62.64%)
#11- L4 Release moves that end in an extended position MUST originate from the ground (48.56% Yes AND 47.99% No)
#21- Limit Crossovers by PERCENTAGE (51.72% Yes AND 46.84% No)
*#22- Limit Crossovers by listed percentages: 20% (29.45%); 25% (63.65%)
#25- Large Division # of Participants: 21-32 (42.24%); 21-30 (52.44%)
#28- Change Current Age LEVEL Grid (42.96% Yes AND 53.59% No)
*#29- Change Age LEVEL Grid: Choice B (Eliminate Mini 3 and Youth 5). (76.72%)
#30- Change Age Divisions (54.02% Yes AND 44.40% No)
#31- Change How Divisions are Split: Coed/AG THEN S/L (44.25%); S/L THEN Coed/AG (52.87%)
#36- Change # of Teams Needed for Small Gym Split (43.53% Yes AND 54.02% No)
*#37- New # of Teams Needed for Split: 4 teams (29.60%); 5 teams (62.50%)
#39- Eliminate Youth 5 (51.15% Yes AND 46.70% No)
*#40-41- If Y5 is NOT Eliminated, Impose Tumbling/Stunting Restrictions (75.86% Yes AND 21.12% No; 66.67% Yes AND 30.46% No Respectively)
*#42- If Y5 IS Eliminated, Create JRestricted5 (69.25% Yes AND 28.88% No)

(#10, #29, #37 All needed the points above them to pass, and many of them were too close for me to feel definitive based on the percentages either yes OR no. #39-42 all were the Y5 ones, which I feel might change seeing as the restrictions passed so nicely. We'll see on those)

 

[Num1Stunta]

I think I trump all. You can fight for saludictorian though.

I'm pretty sure it's called a "salutatorian"... which I believe qualifies you for said role lol

 

[King]

I'm pretty sure it's called a "salutatorian"... which I believe qualifies you for said role lol

My wife was the valedictorian [for reals]. I (with my lackluster spelling and grammar unless concentrating) was the get a high SAT but low GPA student.

 

[Num1Stunta]

My wife was the valedictorian [for reals]. I (with my lackluster spelling and grammar unless concentrating) was the get a high SAT but low GPA student.

Story of my LIFE lol... btw, I am sure you are as happy about the large size vote as I am! At least something went well here

 

[ACEDAD]

So when is the final decision being made? Or is this the final one?

Read page one of this thread.