All-Star Positives And Negatives Of 2011 Worlds (the Event, Not Teams)

[ilikebigbows]

Positive - The energy! Being there for the first time, the crowd and the hype was overwhelming! Especially during large senior! Wow!

Negative - I was about sick of small senior by the end of day 1, not gonna lie.

Negative - The block party. For all those who wanted to stay out of that crazy "dance" thing, it was super lame. Rockin' Rollet Coaster, Toy Story, Tower of Terror, and the Great Movie Ride. I did all that in an hour and a half. And they ended up shutting it down early right? We left before that happened.

 

[INeverStopCheering]

I don't think it really gets any bigger than WDW. I mean, where else are there facilities of that size and meant to acomodate that amount of people. Unless you move it to an arena where you only have one floor, which might make things take even longer. I've always wondered why they try to cram it all unto one weekend. How about 4 or 5 days?

 

[Cheerfan1234]

Positive -- Amazing routines, some of which left me speechless.

Negative--The way they did random selection for the partial and paid bids...One of the bonuses of getting a partial/paid bid used to be that you'd go at the end of your division..In small senior and small limited coed, there were definitely a few prelim scores that were questionably low for some of the bigger name gyms that unfortunately had to gofirst through eleventh or so.

 

[AScheer]

That is actually not a bad idea - why not have it at an International location at some point? After all, it is a World's competition, right?

It is "WORLDS" but having it at an actual international location wouldn't work - at least not anytime soon. More than the majority of teams are American teams so financially it doesn't make sense. Business wise you make it most convenient for the most people possible. Expenses would be out the roof for US teams! Considering the US dollar is pretty much half of what other countries have so you automatically double everything just putting it somewhere else. And lets face it - nothing against Americans (I am a proud one), but most are not very internationally travel savvy. Most kids don't have passports. Most don't speak more than one language (many people in other countries speak at least 2.) Most don't know how to convert their money to a euro/yuan or whatever, and then know how much it equals to. You would be moving 90% of the competition to time zones completely opposite of what they are used to means thousands will have to go days in advance to adjust which = more money! Also consider we move it to Thailand for example, then really only a few teams would really benefit because not that many teams are actually from that area so everyone still has to travel to somewhere.

I think having the ICU worlds though at different international cities would be a great idea though. Seeing as that each country has only 1 or 2 teams represented, and more countries participate, it would be fair for the competition to switch up locations internationally. The people on the ICU teams are also older, more responsible and able to handle traveling internationally better.

I think having Worlds at a different city/state would definitely give competitive cheerleading much more exposure. Imagine if they held Worlds in NYC, and you were riding the subway with a whole bunch of all-star cheerleaders. Your definitely going to wonder what the hell is going on.

Can anyone else see potential major problems sending teams on the NYC subways!?!? I couldn't imagine. It could be disastrous and dangerous for some!

 

[cheermomfootball]

It is "WORLDS" but having it at an actual international location wouldn't work - at least not anytime soon. More than the majority of teams are American teams so financially it doesn't make sense. Business wise you make it most convenient for the most people possible. Expenses would be out the roof for US teams! Considering the US dollar is pretty much half of what other countries have so you automatically double everything just putting it somewhere else. And lets face it - nothing against Americans (I am a proud one), but most are not very internationally travel savvy. Most kids don't have passports. Most don't speak more than one language (many people in other countries speak at least 2.) Most don't know how to convert their money to a euro/yuan or whatever, and then know how much it equals to. You would be moving 90% of the competition to time zones completely opposite of what they are used to means thousands will have to go days in advance to adjust which = more money! Also consider we move it to Thailand for example, then really only a few teams would really benefit because not that many teams are actually from that area so everyone still has to travel to somewhere.

1. It makes as much financial sense for Americans to go to another country as it does for the other countries to come here. It is all proportionate to financial abilities.

2. Business wise is not just about the majority - it is about opportunities for other cities/locations to have a shot at the revenue and not monopolizing the location of the event every single year.

3. Expenses would be through the roof for US teams, true. But, that is already how it is for some of the teams who come from all over the World - and they often have less funds than American teams. Why should they always have to be the ones traveling all the way to the US?

4. The currency fluctuates and it depends on which country you go to. It also depends on whether you are dealing with the Euro dollar, or currencies that are unique to each country.

5. To just mention a statistic; in 2008 over 25 million Americans traveled out of country [over seas] during that summer, spending close to 30 billion dollars during just June/July/August of that year. I think that shows quite a savvy demographics of Americans, willing to spend the dollar. Americans deserve more credit

6. Many already show up at Worlds days in advance, and they stay for days after the event. The time difference in other countries is fairly simple to over come and is just part of traveling. If Thailand can make it all the way to FL, give close to the show of the event, and tie for a win, then Americans can handle it too.

 

[ROCKnROLLS]

Really? And family entertainment and shopping in a reality safe crime-free area that will transport thousands of people for free to and from ?

the transportation is not free, you pay for that it your ticket.

 

[newcheerdad]

1. It makes as much financial sense for Americans to go to another country as it does for the other countries to come here. It is all proportionate to financial abilities.

I guarantee that you would cut the number of teams that go to Worlds in half if you moved the competition out of the U.S.

 

[AScheer]

1. It makes as much financial sense for Americans to go to another country as it does for the other countries to come here. It is all proportionate to financial abilities.

2. Business wise is not just about the majority - it is about opportunities for other cities/locations to have a shot at the revenue and not monopolizing the location of the event every single year.

3. Expenses would be through the roof for US teams, true. But, that is already how it is for some of the teams who come from all over the World - and they often have less funds than American teams. Why should they always have to be the ones traveling all the way to the US?

4. The currency fluctuates and it depends on which country you go to. It also depends on whether you are dealing with the Euro dollar, or currencies that are unique to each country.

5. To just mention a statistic; in 2008 over 25 million Americans traveled out of country [over seas] during that summer, spending close to 30 billion dollars during just June/July/August of that year. I think that shows quite a savvy demographics of Americans, willing to spend the dollar. Americans deserve more credit

6. Many already show up at Worlds days in advance, and they stay for days after the event. The time difference in other countries is fairly simple to over come and is just part of traveling. If Thailand can make it all the way to FL, give close to the show of the event, and tie for a win, then Americans can handle it too.

Good points.
1 & 2. True its just as much for them to come here as for us to go there. Granted I'm no business major, but if I'm putting on an event I would want the most people to come, for me to make the most amount of $$ possible. I just think it makes sense that you would put it at a place that is somewhat convenient for the majority of your potential consumers. I still just think cheer internationally isn't at the level yet to hold worlds.
3. Good point. Not always, but for a lot of countries US teams do have more funding available. I don't think its necessarily fair for them, but at the same time I still go back to the point that international cheer isn't at the point yet where we go to them. I think its been mentioned by some from other countries that half of the fun is coming to America.
5. Just speaking from what I know - at least around here! On my team of 28 girls I know that 2 have passports and have traveled internationally. Not speaking on the nation as a whole, but more of the age group that would be going.

 

[cheermomfootball]

I guarantee that you would cut the number of teams that go to Worlds in half if you moved the competition out of the U.S.

I think we may be under estimating the American teams. After all, it would not be every year that it would out of the country. It could be every three years maybe.

 

[newcheerdad]

I think we may be under estimating the American teams. After all, it would not be every year that it would out of the country. It could be every three years maybe.

I think all the large mega-gyms would go, obviously. But I could certainly see more than a few teams decline because of the cost of travel.

The reality is that 90 percent of the teams are U.S. based, so it makes sense for the competition to be in the U.S.

 

[cheermomfootball]

Good points.
1 & 2. True its just as much for them to come here as for us to go there. Granted I'm no business major, but if I'm putting on an event I would want the most people to come, for me to make the most amount of $$ possible. I just think it makes sense that you would put it at a place that is somewhat convenient for the majority of your potential consumers. I still just think cheer internationally isn't at the level yet to hold worlds.
3. Good point. Not always, but for a lot of countries US teams do have more funding available. I don't think its necessarily fair for them, but at the same time I still go back to the point that international cheer isn't at the point yet where we go to them. I think its been mentioned by some from other countries that half of the fun is coming to America.
5. Just speaking from what I know - at least around here! On my team of 28 girls I know that 2 have passports and have traveled internationally. Not speaking on the nation as a whole, but more of the age group that would be going.

People can easily get a passport if they are going overseas. Many don't have one, only because they have not had a reason to get one. It is fairly painless - takes no more than 6 weeks, on average, and for those who need it faster, they can get it in 7 days.

 

[ROCKnROLLS]

1. It makes as much financial sense for Americans to go to another country as it does for the other countries to come here. It is all proportionate to financial abilities.

2. Business wise is not just about the majority - it is about opportunities for other cities/locations to have a shot at the revenue and not monopolizing the location of the event every single year.

3. Expenses would be through the roof for US teams, true. But, that is already how it is for some of the teams who come from all over the World - and they often have less funds than American teams. Why should they always have to be the ones traveling all the way to the US?

4. The currency fluctuates and it depends on which country you go to. It also depends on whether you are dealing with the Euro dollar, or currencies that are unique to each country.

5. To just mention a statistic; in 2008 over 25 million Americans traveled out of country [over seas] during that summer, spending close to 30 billion dollars during just June/July/August of that year. I think that shows quite a savvy demographics of Americans, willing to spend the dollar. Americans deserve more credit

6. Many already show up at Worlds days in advance, and they stay for days after the event. The time difference in other countries is fairly simple to over come and is just part of traveling. If Thailand can make it all the way to FL, give close to the show of the event, and tie for a win, then Americans can handle it too.

Its got nothing to do with monopolies or being fair and taking turns. It has everything to do with competition. Disney as a location competes with any other location and wins the bid hands down. we come to worlds because of the event and because of the location. you move it to Bangkok or any other location that "deserves a turn" and you lose. oh and Business wise is about the majority. You deliver your goods or services to the majority of your customer base and that way you ensure revenue. again it's got nothing to do with giving others a "turn" to make money. just curious, but are you a socialist?

 

[cheermomfootball]

Its got nothing to do with monopolies or being fair and taking turns. It has everything to do with competition. Disney as a location competes with any other location and wins the bid hands down. we come to worlds because of the event and because of the location. you move it to Bangkok or any other location that "deserves a turn" and you lose. oh and Business wise is about the majority. You deliver your goods or services to the majority of your customer base and that way you ensure revenue. again it's got nothing to do with giving others a "turn" to make money. just curious, but are you a socialist?

Am I a socialist? LOL, I think politics is completely irrelevant in this thread. I mean, does someone have to be with a particular political party to believe that it should not only belong to the US to host a Worlds competition? See it from the other teams who come from overseas. There are tons of nations coming from all over the World to participate.

By saying that you ensure revenue by being where the majority of the customers are, it could be interpreted that the other nations are not taken in to consideration, except to accept their money for revenue purposes.

 

[cheerKT]

Negative: Watching the same teams compete in the Milkhouse twice in one day. Maybe they should have done small senior semis in Jostens, and brought another division (IAG5 prelims or something) into the Milkhouse, just to get more kids the opportunity to be in there. Some teams were competing in the Milkhouse 3 times, while other teams were in there 0 times. I think it could have been split up a little better.

Neg: TOO MANY TEAMS. Worlds should be a privilege for the season, not an expectation. (I understand, more bids = more $$$, blah blah save the lecture. It's still annoying.)

Neg: Awful conduct from "fans" of teams. I refuse to call anyone out, but it was absolutely 100% uncalled for. What I witnessed was from fans with no connection to their favorite gyms what so ever.

I'm sure I have more positives, I'm just still a little cheer hungover right now. I'll post more later.

 

[cheerKT]

How could I forget?

NEGATIVE = LOVE BUGS.