All-Star Panthers Not Cali?

[caa10]

cool profile pic courtney.

Thanks, idk who the other girl in the photo is..

 

[Ariel]

What I am curious about is why neither of these teams is competing in Large. They obviously have very big talent pools to choose from and have boatloads and boatloads of tumbling that is similar to what would be expected on a strong large team.

This doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me. One of the main reasons Panthers went small was because of the large amount of senior boy talent CA had this year & they didn't have enough girls to have 2 large senior teams. Both of these gyms DO field large teams. So it's not as if they're stacking one small team. CA and I'm sure Cali doesn't just have 16 more senior 5 girls laying around, but just didn't want to go large senior. Cali went home with 3 medals this year & all 4 CA teams medaled as well, so I think their coaches know what they're doing.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

Really what???

I just thought it was ironic that the post immediately preceding yours was one from someone on the team - not a "fan" - posting something that I don't exactly consider being a good sport.

 

[Angelica]

I love ca don't get me wrong but everyone has favorites. Everything happens for a reason. Love Cali no matter what they hit an amazing routine BOTH days. That's all you can do in Cheerleading. Your amazing Cali and you def worked it out this year. Y'all don't need a globe to know your first you won over the hearts of many this year hang in there girls! Congrats to the entire Cali program !!

 

[The Sixth]

While I'm walking through the ocean of your intelligence, my feet do not get wet.

I appreciate clever humor, and that's pretty funny!

I have a pic from Facebook that shows a 2 year old could have ran below the whole Panthers team during their jumps, they were that in synch.

And there is something *really* funny to me about the image this creates. I keep picturing that toddler in the diaper commercial that keeps running across the room really fast running across the mat!

 

[keepdreamin]

I Love Cali! this was one of my favorite teams this year and definitely my fav in small senior. I wish I could see them wearing the worlds rings, but congrats to panthers, a job well done.

 

[CAmamakat]

Thanks to all who supports CA... love ya'll!! Already looking forward to Worlds 2012!!! Its going to be an exciting season!!

 

[cheerymom]

Welcome to Spirit's world...lol. When your on top people love to knock you down.
Cali's jump execution was not there. I have a pic from Facebook that shows a 2 year old could have ran below the whole Panthers team during their jumps, they were that in synch.
The only Cali team parents I have interacted with is Smoed and they were some of the nicest people I met at NCA! They let two Spirit people crash their area and then tolerated me spraying hair spray and taking out rollers in front of them.
Silver is nothing to stick your nose up at...they were one of the TOP 3 small senior teams in the WORLD and beat a perennial champion! Be proud of what you have accomplished rather then whine about what you didn't get.

And welcome to Rays world.... Where people want you to lose solely because you've won. Winning is hard. Staying on top even harder as proven again in every all star division. Orange had a great run and from our first year on the team in 09 where the WHOLE Milkhouse was chanting "C E A" with the exception of Rays and SOT (thanks! btw) when it was down to the two of us, to this year where the crowd was mildly supportive, it's always been that way for us. People are not afraid to hate you or harass you in person or via social networking. I am SO proud of our girls! Proud of their performance, proud of their winning record, and proud of how well they handled themselves. They were the first to congratulate Panthers who had been so supportive of us in Dallas. Not the gold this time around, but still on the podium and sporting a few World's rings as we end our all star cheer career.... Thanks for the memories. And to CA and Cali a job well done. Enjoy it because next season starts next weekend. Lol! Good luck to all ~ again!

 

[CAWildcat44]

I just want to congratulate panthers on what I thought was a well deserved win on their part! I think those girls definitely deserved to take home the gold medal! Here is my breakdown as to why! This is all from finals Day.

STANDING TUMBLING
Panthers Cali
3 toe fulls 1 toe full/ 2 to double
6 standing fulls 3 standing fulls
8 two to fulls 4 two to fulls/5 one to fulls/1 to LAYOUT
3 three to doubles 4 three to doubles
7 two to doubles 3 one to doubles/2 two to whip doubles.

The one thing people should understand about this section is use of the team! I would like to point out that California's star tumbler does THREE standing tumbling passes. (toe full 2 to double, standing one to double, then her crazy elite standing pass) THIS GIRL SHOULD HAVE JUST COMPETED AN INDIVIDUAL!!! ALSO, the 2 two to whip doubles already did one to doubles. is this necessary too? Cali also had two cart wheel fulls but one girl proceeded to do a three to double and the other did a two to full. IMO Cali is doing WAY TOO much for no reason. Panthers triple the amount of toe fulls, double the amount of standing fulls. On cali There were 14 girls that did a standing pass to a twist, meaning 6 girls didnt standing tumble. 3 girls on cali did more than one standing tumbling pass. On panthers 18 girls did a standing pass to twist and one that didnt competed a toe full. (she couldnt do the two to double due to an injury which she competed at NCA) IMO panthers MURDERED the standing tumbling section and also IMO had Noticeably better execution! ONLY 1 girl on panthers didnt standing to twist, while on Cali 6 girls didnt standing to twist.

RUNNING TUMBLING
Panthers CALI
13 running doubles 3 running doubles
8 running fulls 7 running fulls
3 specialty to full 4 specialty to full
4 specialty to double 3 specialty to double

Panthers choreographed a very short running tumbling section right before the stunt which was VERY smart of them. These girls demonstrate right off the bat that they half HALF of the squad doing a running double WOW!!! with this section aside THEY STILL outscore Cali in running tumbling as you can see above. 2 girls dont running tumble on panthers while 3 girls dont running tumble on Cali. Panthers also have more specialty to doubles. There is No question that Panthers should have outscored Cali in running tumbling. period.

JUMPS
Panthers CALI
1 girl doesn't jump ( due to injury) 3 girls dont jump(those girls are getting ready to do a 2nd standing pass?)
1 girl doesn't flip.
4 well executed jumps to a back 5 IMO less executed, bouncy jumps to a back
and later transition to another jump

In this section panthers timing, and technique in Legs and ARMS i find to be better than Cali's! People may disagree with this however I find it very hard too! Panthers should have outscored Cali in jumps as well.

BASKETS
Panthers CALI
7 KICK KICK double baskets 2 kick kick double baskets
2 Pike arches 3 kick double baskets
1 pike star open 2 kick hitch arch
1 toe touch

IMO Panthers Out score Cali in baskets. Panthers demonstrate maximum amount of KICK KICK double (5 ELITE) baskets. In this section Cali only does 2!! (center and far right) They each do three variety basket however panthers do 2 more KICK KICK doubles in the opening during the standing fulls.

STUNTS
Panthers Cali
5 one and a half ups 5 one and a half ups.
5 elite tick tocks stretch to stretch 5 elite tick tocks stretch to stretch
5 switch up to stretch
4 two mans 2 group stunts

Cali definitely put up more stunts than panthers no question! Cali's to back stunts both had a minor bobble on the switch up. Also Cali had two one and a half ups go to prep level. ( the two right stunts) Panthers also had two one a half ups at prep level ( the outside stunts) I think cali executed the one and a half ups a TINY bit better than panthers. When it comes to stretch to stretch I think panthers had better execution. Yes Cali did switch up and do the leg free hold however i think this dropped their execution score. it wasnt well executed IMO. As i have mentioned Cali put up more stunts than panthers but it was unnecessary. throughout each team does 4 body positions to a double down. (stretch, overstretch, scorpion, scale,) Arabesque isnt considered a body position. To be honest I dont know who should have out scored who in this section I thought Both teams were awesome at STUNTS.

PYRAMID
Panthers Cali
2 tick tocks to structure 2 tick tocks to structure
2 FULL twisting front flips 2 back flips 1 x back flip
1 front flip 1 front x flip 2 front flips
1 double down full around to top
2 flips to dismount 2 double downs
3 total structures 3 total structures

IMO they are almost equal when it comes to pyramid. Cali did 6 flips panthers did 5. HOWEVER in two of panthers flips there was a full twist so therefore they are equal in my eyes. The one thing cali had on panthers was the full around to the top. Each team had a double down dismount and flipping dismount. THEY BOTH hit the score sheet. When it comes to execution, you can decide which team executed the best. In this section they are Neck and Neck to me.

DANCE

When it comes to dance the only fact I can give you is that panthers had A WHOLE 8 count more of dance not including the girl in the middle saying (cheer athletics) I honestly cant say which one I think should score higher.

The reason it is panthers is because PANTHERS hit the SCORESHEET!! I just proved that panthers SMASHED Cali in tumbling. (Running and Standing) When It comes to building skills I think they were pretty much neck and neck. Panthers choreographed what they had to in order to score in the highest range. Cali on the other hand did that and much more which wasn't necessary. They also Reused all of those girls for standing tumbling when it wasn't necessary.
Over all I think Panthers were cleaner and exhibited way more technique and execution. YES, cali had the crowd, YES, cali put on a show. BUT Panthers put on a show just as much. Panthers routine was choreographed to show THE TEAMS ability and skills and I can honestly say Cali's routine was not. Panthers were the better team this weekend on the scoresheet and people need to realize this. It was the saddest thing for me to see Panther girls coming off the floor asking why the arena was silent for them. I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE NOT GIVING CREDIT TO WHERE IT IS DUE. Panthers won. AND THEY DESERVED IT 100%

 

[CAWildcat44]

Oh and one of cali's two to whip doubles was a WHIP FULL *

 

[CAWildcat44]

sorry if some of this is confusing. I had it all separated but when I posted it in crammed them together. You get the point though!!!

 

[garretttt]

I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE NOT GIVING CREDIT TO WHERE IT IS DUE. Panthers won. AND THEY DESERVED IT 100%

now you know how orange has felt the past 4 years. it really sucks that for some reason the champions of this division are always questioned.

 

[cheermommaRN]

And welcome to Rays world.... Where people want you to lose solely because you've won. Winning is hard. Staying on top even harder as proven again in every all star division. Orange had a great run and from our first year on the team in 09 where the WHOLE Milkhouse was chanting "C E A" with the exception of Rays and SOT (thanks! btw) when it was down to the two of us, to this year where the crowd was mildly supportive, it's always been that way for us. People are not afraid to hate you or harass you in person or via social networking. I am SO proud of our girls! Proud of their performance, proud of their winning record, and proud of how well they handled themselves. They were the first to congratulate Panthers who had been so supportive of us in Dallas. Not the gold this time around, but still on the podium and sporting a few World's rings as we end our all star cheer career.... Thanks for the memories. And to CA and Cali a job well done. Enjoy it because next season starts next weekend. Lol! Good luck to all ~ again!

Rays and SOT are like two peas in a pod...same work ethic, same coaching philosophy, we even match each other on jumps! I think we need to have a blue/green/purple/black/white camp....in Cancun.....lol

 

[Angelica]

Whoever you are above that actually took the time to type that I commend you. Now I'm not going to read it because it's so long and probably just explains more reason why panthers beat Cali. When really I believe everyone needs to relax because we can say woulda coulda shoulda but hey that Wont change anything. Congrats panthers. Hang in there Cali your time to shine is coming<3

 

[CAWildcat44]

Whoever you are above that actually took the time to type that I commend you. Now I'm not going to read it because it's so long and probably just explains more reason why panthers beat Cali. When really I believe everyone needs to relax because we can say woulda coulda shoulda but hey that Wont change anything. Congrats panthers. Hang in there Cali your time to shine is coming<3

the sad part is.... there is still more I wanted to type. :/