All-Star Brandon 2012 Stunt Illegal?

[cmpayne]

Pretty sure the rule reads something like it's illegal above 18' from extended arms

This is the most amazing picture I've ever seen & that middle flyer is a beast.

 

[DJ]

They throw from a toss grip....I think that's the difference

Tosses must be performed with all bases having their feet on the performing surface and must land in a cradle position. Top person must be caught in a cradle position by at least 3 original bases one of which is positioned at the head and shoulder area of the top person. Bases must remain stationary during the toss.
Clarification: no intentional traveling tosses

 

[rvnblue]

actually the bases arms are UP and are fully extended which makes its shorter than 18inches...now if the bases arms were down lets say at a prep level then there would be a problem.

This is incorrect. Even if the arms were at prep level, the distance would be measured as if they were extended.

 

[cheeromgbre]

Do you really think Brandon's coaches would give them an illegal stunt?

ETA: Sorry if this comes off as rude! it's not intentional!

 

[rvnblue]

Tosses must be performed with all bases having their feet on the performing surface and must land in a cradle position. Top person must be caught in a cradle position by at least 3 original bases one of which is positioned at the head and shoulder area of the top person. Bases must remain stationary during the toss.
Clarification: no intentional traveling tosses

OMG NOOOOOOOO!!!!! A toss is simply defined by the height through which a person is thrown.

 

[buffyyy]

Tosses must be performed with all bases having their feet on the performing surface and must land in a cradle position. Top person must be caught in a cradle position by at least 3 original bases one of which is positioned at the head and shoulder area of the top person. Bases must remain stationary during the toss.
Clarification: no intentional traveling tosses

sooooooo.... is it illegal or not lol

 

[ztaprincess]

Do you really think Brandon's coaches would give them an illegal stunt?

ETA: Sorry if this comes off as rude! it's not intentional!

Wouldn't be the first time a gym has performed something illegal. Maybe there is some kind of "grey" area that no one can figure out but the Brandon coaches (James did it with GT Black last year). Not sure where the grey area would be though.

 

[DJ]

OMG NOOOOOOOO!!!!! A toss is simply defined by the height through which a person is thrown.

pulled right from USASF.

 

[King]

Grey. Depends on if the judge feels the flyer extended over the 18 inches if legs were straight down. So more an execution thing. I'd assume this would not be called.

 

[YourNewObsession]

Do you really think Brandon's coaches would give them an illegal stunt?

ETA: Sorry if this comes off as rude! it's not intentional!

I'm not an idiot, clearly it was either an oversight or falls in the grey area. Hence the thread.

 

[rvnblue]

travnation80 ztaprincess YourNewObsession

As per the rules site:
Eighteen Inches Above Extended Arm Level:
The maximum distance allowed between the highest point of a base's extended arm and the bottom of the feet of an upright top person during a release move. Clarification: Release moves where the toss persons "ball-up", tuck, etc, the eighteen inches will be determined by where the top person's feet would be if they were vertical/upright and the legs were straight underneath them.

 

[Bcheercoach]

Do you really think Brandon's coaches would give them an illegal stunt?

ETA: Sorry if this comes off as rude! it's not intentional!

Hmmm pretty sure Senior Elite had an illegal element in their routine that has since been changed. :stupid:

 

[rvnblue]

pulled right from USASF.

right but this is not a toss

 

[ztaprincess]

Basically they have to be careful how high they toss it.

 

[YourNewObsession]

travnation80 ztaprincess YourNewObsession

As per the rules site:
Eighteen Inches Above Extended Arm Level:
The maximum distance allowed between the highest point of a base's extended arm and the bottom of the feet of an upright top person during a release move. Clarification: Release moves where the toss persons "ball-up", tuck, etc, the eighteen inches will be determined by where the top person's feet would be if they were vertical/upright and the legs were straight underneath them.

Now I understand